some drawings

[Loom]

Oh, I think those action scenes are the millisecond after the hit. That way, you can see from how his body recoils, and just how hard he's been hit. I think it's just often used in the name of dynamism.

[uchiha007]

hmmmmmmmm fair enough. I'll play around with those a lil bit and try to get em down.Meanwhile, I will prepare mentally before i try the action poses lol so i came up with a few sketches.I would like some feedback to see if any of these poses will work out.Later on i will post some other poses, mostly kicks since i never have practice them before.

[ShayneZee]

Sorry I can't do a redline at the moment, my tablet is kinda freaking out on me and I've gotta re-install the driver or something but anyways, I'll try and be descriptive as possible.

Okay so for the first drawing.
>The first thing I noticed was that her left leg, (the one kicking) is too short, I can't say exactly how much shorter it is, but it is noticeably shorter then her other leg. I'm gonna take a guess and say about a head length or so, maybe a bit more.
>The second thing is her right arm, the one that's above her head. Firstly your wrists and hand sizes seem to have gotten a bit better, and the arm itself is very good. However it's too high up, because of the angle her arm is bent the shoulder won't allow it to go any higher then about nighty degrees with her torso. Maybe a little bit more but not much. If you wanted you could actually probably get away with just selecting that arm with the magic wand and shifting it down so the end of her elbow is around her nose upper lip area. I think that should be about low enough. But it's hard to say without checking it.
> Her forearms might be a bit too long. But aside from that the pose itself is very good. Very natural looking, and holds a lot of potential. Add a couple of speed lines and it'd be good to go.

For the second and third pictures
> Her arms are too short. That's about all I can see, not hard to fix and again the poses themselves look very good.

For the third pose alone:
> The crotch of her thumb and index finger folds out, and makes it look kind of fatty, the shape of the line and curve are good, it's just facing the wrong way. Also her fingers look a bit stubby at the base, while girls generally have more slender fingers.

Something you might want to check out for good fighting poses is Beelzebub. It's a weird plot and kinda disturbing since it's got a naked baby in it. . . which they don't censor =_= but the fighting scenes are good and have a lot of hand to hand fighting which seems to be what you're trying the most.


[Off topic suggestion]
I just noticed this and think that it's one of the few things that we might have in common art wise. But the girl (since you draw her so much I'm gonna say she's your main character correct me if I'm wrong) has really long hair, which most people find hard to draw. Personally I find it pretty fun, difficult but fun.
So something you might want to try is draw a top down picture of her laying down, and draw a bunch of smaller thinner clumps of hair flowing across the floor, or bed or whatever she's laying on, so sorta like this http://bluezircon.deviantart.com/art...eauty-21913755 . The main reason for it is that for one, it's good practice drawing hair, two it's pretty fun, but the main reason it REALLY helps for lineart, drawing all the flowing curls and strands is pretty helpful. I know it's totally off topic but if you're still looking to practice lineart. It might be worth a shot.

Keep in mind that your comfort zone is the total opposite of mine. You've been practicing anatomy and dynamic poses a ton, and have gotten very good at it. While it's a stretch for me to try anything like that.


So I hope I was helpful in some way. If I wasn't sorry, but keep up the good work you're really improving quickly and can't wait to see how much you've improved in a few months.

[uchiha007]

Originally Posted by ShayneZee

Sorry I can't do a redline at the moment, my tablet is kinda freaking out on me and I've gotta re-install the driver or something but anyways, I'll try and be descriptive as possible.

Okay so for the first drawing.
>The first thing I noticed was that her left leg, (the one kicking) is too short, I can't say exactly how much shorter it is, but it is noticeably shorter then her other leg. I'm gonna take a guess and say about a head length or so, maybe a bit more.
>The second thing is her right arm, the one that's above her head. Firstly your wrists and hand sizes seem to have gotten a bit better, and the arm itself is very good. However it's too high up, because of the angle her arm is bent the shoulder won't allow it to go any higher then about nighty degrees with her torso. Maybe a little bit more but not much. If you wanted you could actually probably get away with just selecting that arm with the magic wand and shifting it down so the end of her elbow is around her nose upper lip area. I think that should be about low enough. But it's hard to say without checking it.
> Her forearms might be a bit too long. But aside from that the pose itself is very good. Very natural looking, and holds a lot of potential. Add a couple of speed lines and it'd be good to go.

For the second and third pictures
> Her arms are too short. That's about all I can see, not hard to fix and again the poses themselves look very good.

For the third pose alone:
> The crotch of her thumb and index finger folds out, and makes it look kind of fatty, the shape of the line and curve are good, it's just facing the wrong way. Also her fingers look a bit stubby at the base, while girls generally have more slender fingers.

Something you might want to check out for good fighting poses is Beelzebub. It's a weird plot and kinda disturbing since it's got a naked baby in it. . . which they don't censor =_= but the fighting scenes are good and have a lot of hand to hand fighting which seems to be what you're trying the most.


[Off topic suggestion]
I just noticed this and think that it's one of the few things that we might have in common art wise. But the girl (since you draw her so much I'm gonna say she's your main character correct me if I'm wrong) has really long hair, which most people find hard to draw. Personally I find it pretty fun, difficult but fun.
So something you might want to try is draw a top down picture of her laying down, and draw a bunch of smaller thinner clumps of hair flowing across the floor, or bed or whatever she's laying on, so sorta like this http://bluezircon.deviantart.com/art...eauty-21913755 . The main reason for it is that for one, it's good practice drawing hair, two it's pretty fun, but the main reason it REALLY helps for lineart, drawing all the flowing curls and strands is pretty helpful. I know it's totally off topic but if you're still looking to practice lineart. It might be worth a shot.

Keep in mind that your comfort zone is the total opposite of mine. You've been practicing anatomy and dynamic poses a ton, and have gotten very good at it. While it's a stretch for me to try anything like that.


So I hope I was helpful in some way. If I wasn't sorry, but keep up the good work you're really improving quickly and can't wait to see how much you've improved in a few months.

lol tablets do tend to go crazy every now and then, that's technology for ya haha

anyways,on the first drawing i did noticed the kicking leg being smaller compared to the other one.It might've been a miscalculation of mine and drew the boot lower than the other, or maybe i just screw up lol I'll try to fix it next time.Hmmmmmmm for the arm, I tried to line up the shoulders, but i guess i still went a lil over the top.Well, i look into those next time i draw the pose, but is kool to know the pose is not that bad bad =D.

hmmmmmmm freaking arms lol, i redrew them like 3-5 times and still got em wrong, hmmmmm I'll have to practice on my profile oses some more.I also need to practice on my fists, seem to be doing something wrong.I will try and fix these mistakes.

Naked baby? wtf? lmao that is not as disturbing as it sounds tho,babies are born naked, unless that baby is an alien, or something like that guy in the movie "Little Man" lol. I will go ahead and take a look at that manga.For now i am taking some references for punch strikes from hajime no ippo(btw really awesome manga lol).Thanx for the suggestions ^_^

Yeah she is one of the main chars.I will try that hair thingy,probably make a pose of her laying down and the angle in front of her and see how that works out.Lol, my comfort zone is just to stay out of drawing backgrounds, i suck at them hardcore >.< gotta start practicing em.Can't even draw a simple tree lol :P

Anyways, thanx a lot for the critic and also the suggestions, I'll keep it all in mind for future drawings.



Hmmmmmm it has been quite a while since i practiced toning, so i went ahead and gave it yet another shot.I played around with mostly black and white, and minimal half-toning.Also played around a lil with hatching and included a treasure chest to try another kind of surfaces and a bird to try something different,Can't practice just drawing ppl forever lol. well here it is:

[ShayneZee]

Firstly, HOLY S*** That's a MASSIVE improvement.



I have very little to say other then a few VERY minor corrections. One being her waist which didn't have very much curve, but with her legs like that I didn't know exactly how to draw it, so you'll have to ask someone else about it.

Her wrist was a tad bit to sharp but not bad. Her hand was VERY good, and incredible improvement.

Her head seemed a little wide to me, but that's a style thing so whatever.

I love her boot design. It's pretty epic, and I'm glad to see you trying more detailed clothing designs.

Her left hand is a little odd, but I don't know exactly what to suggest for it. Sorry.

The chest, that's awesome. It's good to see you attempting a background-ish piece, and it looks awesome. The hatching and the way you added the black areas really makes it look good. A good manga to look for refrencing screentoning metals would be MAR: Marchen Awakens Romance. It's really good and has some interesting screentoning.

Oh, and one last thing. Her hair band thing, looked kinda big to me. Since when hair gets tied it get's pulled tight together, and then spreads out at the end of the tie. But this could be either it's not tied tightly or a style thing. So your choice.

That picture is seriously awesome. You've improved greatly and this definately shows it. Good job!

[uchiha007]

Originally Posted by ShayneZee

Firstly, HOLY S*** That's a MASSIVE improvement.



I have very little to say other then a few VERY minor corrections. One being her waist which didn't have very much curve, but with her legs like that I didn't know exactly how to draw it, so you'll have to ask someone else about it.

Her wrist was a tad bit to sharp but not bad. Her hand was VERY good, and incredible improvement.

Her head seemed a little wide to me, but that's a style thing so whatever.

I love her boot design. It's pretty epic, and I'm glad to see you trying more detailed clothing designs.

Her left hand is a little odd, but I don't know exactly what to suggest for it. Sorry.

The chest, that's awesome. It's good to see you attempting a background-ish piece, and it looks awesome. The hatching and the way you added the black areas really makes it look good. A good manga to look for refrencing screentoning metals would be MAR: Marchen Awakens Romance. It's really good and has some interesting screentoning.

Oh, and one last thing. Her hair band thing, looked kinda big to me. Since when hair gets tied it get's pulled tight together, and then spreads out at the end of the tie. But this could be either it's not tied tightly or a style thing. So your choice.

That picture is seriously awesome. You've improved greatly and this definately shows it. Good job!

yay, i is so proud T_T lol

yeah her waist looks plain, i was trying to figure out how to correct it but i was unable to find a way,mostly because of the position it was in :P

I am so glad to hear that my hands have improved, you have no idea how much hell they have given me >.<

At first i was gonna just draw the pose,but then thought it was too simple, so i thought it was a great opportunity to draw objects, which is why i drew the chest.I am also very happy to hear positive feedback bout it =D I will take into deep consideration the hair band thing, it does makes a lot sense making it tight.

Once again(and i really mean it everytime i said it) thanx a lot for criticizing and giving suggestions ^_^


well i have a lil more confidence for my art now, and i found some friends who were working on a story and asked them if we could team up.They said yes and well i started drawing the comic.I still am not that much confident on drawing cover pages, so here is my try for one.What do you guys think?

[ShayneZee]

You're like the complete opposite of every artist I know. But anyways, another awesome addition. The pose, perspective, and the way you did the screentoning or coloring is awesome. I'd suggest sticking with that style since it suits your art very well, however try experimenting with other styles also you might find tips that make it easier or whatever.

The only thing that looks weird is her left hand, but it's only a minor detail. Her finger is too long and her palm is a bit too short. If I were you I'd go back and fix it, because it'd be really easy to do, and this picture is pretty amazing and I think it would be worth it.

The other thing, another style thing, but because she's a girl, and the way you drew the boots, I think it would be good to try making her cheeks more rounded. Even if she's supposed to be a bad*** character or whatever, she's still a girl, so she should have more rounded features, while guys generally have more defined. (Although that also depends majorly on the age of the characters)

You're lines are improving quite a lot. The boots have a lot more roundness and flow to them. Which is good. But it's just one of those things that takes practice since using a tablet you lose a lot of the control you have with traditional, so curves are a lot more difficult to achieve.

So anyways, here's my edited version. I don't know if this looks better or worse or what. But I'm gonna say, that the changes I made were so minor that I didn't even bother redlining them.



I moved her cheek literally a few pixels over to make it more rounded, shifted her mouth down, and her nose.
And changed the left hand slightly, by incresing the palm length, and shortening the one finger.
I also erased a few minor lines that kind of jutted out of the lineart, around her boot and the ship.
That's it. All the edits were barely even a few pixels.

I'm really envious of your anatomy and your screentoning/hatching style, both are really good. Especially your hatching, it's become very natural and flowing and it looks amazing.

So I hope this helped, and if it didn't well I tried. So keep up the good work and please continue posting. You're stuff is becoming very epic.

P.S. I was just looking at your older art. Your improvement in less then 3 months is seriously amazing. I can't wait to see what you're managing to do in a few months.

[Side]

I think that the planted leg is twisted to an almost impossible angle and the shoulders slope a bit too much.

[uchiha007]

Originally Posted by ShayneZee

You're like the complete opposite of every artist I know. But anyways, another awesome addition. The pose, perspective, and the way you did the screentoning or coloring is awesome. I'd suggest sticking with that style since it suits your art very well, however try experimenting with other styles also you might find tips that make it easier or whatever.

The only thing that looks weird is her left hand, but it's only a minor detail. Her finger is too long and her palm is a bit too short. If I were you I'd go back and fix it, because it'd be really easy to do, and this picture is pretty amazing and I think it would be worth it.

The other thing, another style thing, but because she's a girl, and the way you drew the boots, I think it would be good to try making her cheeks more rounded. Even if she's supposed to be a bad*** character or whatever, she's still a girl, so she should have more rounded features, while guys generally have more defined. (Although that also depends majorly on the age of the characters)

You're lines are improving quite a lot. The boots have a lot more roundness and flow to them. Which is good. But it's just one of those things that takes practice since using a tablet you lose a lot of the control you have with traditional, so curves are a lot more difficult to achieve.

So anyways, here's my edited version. I don't know if this looks better or worse or what. But I'm gonna say, that the changes I made were so minor that I didn't even bother redlining them.


I moved her cheek literally a few pixels over to make it more rounded, shifted her mouth down, and her nose.
And changed the left hand slightly, by incresing the palm length, and shortening the one finger.
I also erased a few minor lines that kind of jutted out of the lineart, around her boot and the ship.
That's it. All the edits were barely even a few pixels.

I'm really envious of your anatomy and your screentoning/hatching style, both are really good. Especially your hatching, it's become very natural and flowing and it looks amazing.

So I hope this helped, and if it didn't well I tried. So keep up the good work and please continue posting. You're stuff is becoming very epic.

P.S. I was just looking at your older art. Your improvement in less then 3 months is seriously amazing. I can't wait to see what you're managing to do in a few months.

hmmmmmmm i was wondering bout the hand if it was longer that what it should lol it seems it was.Firstly, thanx a lot once again for taking the time to criticize man,really appreciated.With that said,you r right bout the cheek.I tried making it more rounded so it wouldn't be as sharp,but it still was pointy.hmmmmm I shall have to improve on my faces.Been having inda he same problem with the hips lol damn hips >.<.yeah the curves at kinda hard to get the hang of in tablets.On your edited version,I noticed the face looks so much better the way you made it.I tried so many times to make it smaller,but always ended up being deformed lol. Thanx a lot for the comment bro =D

I think that the planted leg is twisted to an almost impossible angle and the shoulders slope a bit too much.

hmmmmmmmm you r probably right,i did noticed the leg being a bit too bend to the side.I am not sure bout the shoulder,but i think it is tru that i bent it a lil too much as well.




OK, now that i have had a pretty good hang on tones,i decided to practice on coloring again.So here is an attempt on coloring.

[uchiha007]

**EDIT** http://sasukesharingan007.deviantart...dude-143533358

http://sasukesharingan007.deviantart...wing-143596268