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Arcademan
12-13-2006, 09:28 AM
Violent teen blames WWE (http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/3835548)
On July 10th, a 19-year-old German teen, Steffen G., consumed 1 bottle of beer, 2 bottles of wine, and 1 bottle of chocolate liqueur then proceeded to murder a homeless man. Steffen G. now blames WWE’s “SmackDown vs. Raw 2006” video game (which is rated “T” for teens) as the reason for his actions. A WWE spokesman stated “Given Steffen G.’s history of violence and alcohol abuse, we believe his claims to be absurd.”
ranma8
12-13-2006, 09:45 AM
Good thing nobody's believing him! Honestly, does every time a teen murders someone does a video game have to be blamed?(and a "T" rated game?)
roxas87
12-13-2006, 09:53 AM
thats just stupid. he cant just blame it on video games. its his own fault.
YamPuff
12-13-2006, 10:49 AM
It was wrestling's fault.
Really.
Aratos
12-13-2006, 02:54 PM
Blame the parents.
binaryzero
12-13-2006, 02:59 PM
why would the game result in murder?
wouldn't you being giving out chairshots to homeless people?
Aratos
12-13-2006, 03:06 PM
It's a common excuise. kid murders someone, kid blames games becasue he knows folk'll take it seriously. It's like the kids who blamed GTA after they took their father's gun and fired onto the highway.
Jacku
12-13-2006, 03:38 PM
Just so you know you spelled "wrestling" wrong in the title.
:)
Freakazoid
12-13-2006, 04:54 PM
Blame the parents.
Yes! Blame the parents!
AnimeDudde
12-13-2006, 05:36 PM
Blame censorship! There isnt enough porn on TV, so guys seek entertainment otherwise.
Nekochii
12-13-2006, 06:34 PM
Blame the parents.
Blame the parents? He's 19! We should blame him and only him. He's old enough to know right from wrong. It's not the parent's fault their son got drunk a beat a homeless man to death. He's a grown man and is no longer his parent's responsibility.
Kaoru
12-13-2006, 08:26 PM
He's just trying to blame something for his own stupid actions.
binaryzero
12-13-2006, 11:15 PM
So when i'm finally caught and arrested which game should i blame my crime spree on?
i was thinking Kingdom Hearts would really throw everyone for a loop...
Aratos
12-14-2006, 06:09 AM
Blame the parents? He's 19! We should blame him and only him. He's old enough to know right from wrong. It's not the parent's fault their son got drunk a beat a homeless man to death. He's a grown man and is no longer his parent's responsibility.
Yeah, well, if he was brought up better he wouldn't be the sort of person that _would_ kill someone whilst drunk.
Kyaa the Catlord
12-14-2006, 06:35 AM
I blame ratlings. Darn rodents.
Gogatsu
12-14-2006, 07:04 AM
If I'm ever caught with mushrooms I'd blame supermaio bros. I would tell the officer I felt small and I ate the mushrooms to feel like a bigger man. :D
Aratos
12-14-2006, 07:11 AM
Sonic makes me steal people's ringgs!
Gogatsu
12-14-2006, 07:43 AM
haha. Sonic has that affect on many people.
Aratos
12-14-2006, 07:45 AM
Yeah. And if that's not bad enough, thanks to Mario I also steal coins! Not to mention I jump on people's heads a lot! And I eat lots of pills and chase after ghosts becasue of pacman! Argh!
Kyaa the Catlord
12-14-2006, 07:45 AM
Don't try running down the gutters on your eaves though, trust me, falling off the roof is painful.
Nekochii
12-14-2006, 11:07 AM
Yeah, well, if he was brought up better he wouldn't be the sort of person that _would_ kill someone whilst drunk.
I still don't think it's the parent's fault. Some people in this world are just born evil. You can give them all the love and affection, send them to the best schools, take them to church every Sunday, and basically spoil them rotten and they'll still do horrible things cause they were just born that way. Sure there's good in everyone, but there's also evil in everyone as well, and in this case the evil within this young man conquered the good.
Aratos
12-14-2006, 11:10 AM
No-one's born evil. It's all in the upbringing. And the circumstances.
YamPuff
12-14-2006, 12:44 PM
No, that's not true. Not even close.
Some people come up good in bad circustanes. My mom for instance; alcoholic parents, abuse, the works. Her brothers an alcoholic now and she's perfectly fine and never even had a day of therepy. And in the reverse, some people come out bad in good circumstances. Fact of life.
Aratos
12-14-2006, 12:53 PM
That doesn't prove a thing. In fact it's the little details that re important, circumstances really are a big thing.
People who're brought up in circumstances that may be most obviously one thing, but have subtle little point in them that may not be obvious are more or less likely to rebel against the circumstances, with interesting results. There's always something.
YamPuff
12-14-2006, 12:58 PM
It proves everything. Because people react to the circumstances they were brought up in in different ways depending on their nature. My conservative household is perfect for me to have rebelled against; I'm not a rebeller. My mom and brother gre wup in the same household and ended up differently. Its a combination of circumstances and personality.
From a religious point of view an adult is responsible for his or her own actions. God would not punish you for your parents fault, thus no one would go to hell.
Eh, believe whatever you like.
Aratos
12-14-2006, 01:07 PM
From a religious point of view an adult is responsible for his or her own actions. God would not punish you for your parents fault, thus no one would go to hell.
Eh, believe whatever you like.
That has to be the worst theology I've seen this week.
Free will. Like I say, upbringing has a major effect. Fact. That said, the factors that decide wether or not someone's going to rebel against their background is down to personality. And what are the effects on personality? Well upbringing's a huge part, hell, circumstances in general, all events happening during life.
Now from that logic, becasue personality is what decides wether somebody does something, and personality is proven to be affected by cirrcumstances, no-one goes to hell anyway because the good Lord wouldn't punish anyone for something that was affected by someone else, hmm? Oi thinks not.
Sure an Adult's respionsible for their actions, but that doesn't remove the fact that their personality is what caused the actions.
YamPuff
12-14-2006, 01:16 PM
Um, yeah, it was meant to be. Man I gotta work on my sarcasm.
Which brings us back to..... even if his parents raised him properly he may still have gone and done what he did. According to his personality. Or whatever. Or some freak occurance that messed him up.
Aratos
12-14-2006, 01:31 PM
Yes, but said personality would be based in some way on his upbringing. Sometimes a conservative upbringing can be overly conservative. it's the little details...
YamPuff
12-14-2006, 02:06 PM
So in that case you can't just say blame the parents.
Aratos
12-14-2006, 02:08 PM
I believe I just did.
Ok then, consider the parents to be a better place to start than videogames then.
YamPuff
12-14-2006, 02:15 PM
:p You're fun to mess with when I'm bored.
Aratos
12-14-2006, 02:18 PM
Yessss...
I'll pay you back some day... (¬_¬)
YamPuff
12-14-2006, 02:22 PM
You're free to try. http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/YamPuff/poke.gif
Vicious
12-15-2006, 12:47 AM
Hm. So he killed a bum because of a game?
He should have blamed GTA instead. That would have been a better choice.
Aratos
12-15-2006, 05:10 AM
GTA's old news. EVeryone's blamed it.
YamPuff
12-15-2006, 09:06 AM
So's blaming the parents. :p What hasn't been blamed yet?
Nekochii
12-15-2006, 10:55 AM
Some kind of mental disorder. That'll probably be next.
Vicious
12-15-2006, 02:16 PM
GTA's old news. EVeryone's blamed it.
He would have had a better case compared to when he blamed that WWE game.
I mean honestly, GTA kills people and you get points for that. In WWE, all you do is wrestle and that's it. You don't kill anyone. In GTA you get to kill whoever you want, and IN the game it's fun. However, while consuming alcohol, you do stupid things that you may not be able to control.
He should also state that he's an alcoholic. Then again, I don't want to help him. >_>
Kaoru
12-15-2006, 04:22 PM
Why even try to blame anything?
It's his own damn fault he did it, the game didn't force him to.
Vicious
12-15-2006, 04:37 PM
Most likely, he just wants an excuse to get out of it.
He should plead either "Parley" next or "insanity". And then do something insane like urinate all over the court room.
AnimeDudde
12-15-2006, 05:18 PM
I'm going to blame Pokemon Yellow when I try to kidnap people in jars.
Aratos
12-16-2006, 01:18 AM
I mean honestly, GTA kills people and you get points for that. In WWE, all you do is wrestle and that's it.
Funny, I've never killed anything in a game. Watched graphical representations of people runnning through death animations, but that's about it...
And it's a while since I played a WWE game, but I seem to remember there being "weapons" such as chairs, kendo swords, barbed wire and nailbats. In a way that's worse.
Arcademan
12-20-2006, 10:33 PM
Follow-up to News article (http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/35629181)
Video Game Defense Rejected
District Court Cottbus in Germany today ruled that the video game "WWE SmackDown vs. RAW 2006" played no role in the homicide of a homeless man, as the defendant claimed in a last ditch effort to reduce his sentence. The court also ruled that the claim could not be used to justify the crime.
WWE is pleased the court saw through the last gasp attempt to lay blame for the murder of this homeless man on playing a video game. Steffen G., a 19-year-old with a history of alcoholism and violence, beat the homeless man and left him to die after consuming 1 bottle of beer, 2 bottles of wine, and 1 bottle of chocolate liqueur and displaying violent behavior.
Nekochii
12-20-2006, 11:05 PM
I had a feeling it would turn out like that. I personally don't see how this particular video game can influence someone to muder. His claim just didn't match up with the crime. It's obvious he just wanted to blame the video game so he could end up on a lesser charge.
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