Simon Cowel from american idol

[Leon Strife]

I wanted to find out what everyone else thinks of Simon Cowel from american idol.

[Jacku]

He's "meh" to me. I do like his honesty but I would like to hear him try to sing and know what it's like to be on the receiving end of someone's critique. XP

[Leon Strife]

I agree with you there. I wonder what it would be like if sang.(but mabye I don't want to think about it!)

[tomselleck69]

i don't watch american idol, but i am familiar with the man's schtick.

he tells stupid and untalented people that they are stupid and untalented. dude is okay in my book.

[TonightMidnight]

I think he's ok. He's right most of the time, actually. I just don't like when he rags on people who can actually sing.

[YamPuff]

i don't watch american idol, but i am familiar with the man's schtick.

he tells stupid and untalented people that they are stupid and untalented. dude is okay in my book.
I was about to type in something along exactly the same lines...only a bit watered down. XD

I personally really like him. Reminds me of Craig Revel Horwood from 'Strictly Come Dancing' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strictly_Come_Dancing). He tells you the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. He doesn't sugar-coat it, doesn't play to favorites and doesn't try to make you feel good about it.

Funnily enough, said Craig Revel Horwood of Strictly Come Dancing actually acepted a challenge in the third season. The celebrity dancer was a pro pool player and he told Craig to see if HE could learn to pool in a week. Now that was a charm. XD He took off his stuffy suit, wore a cute sleevless shirt and git down with it. And he sucked so bad. >< Poor dude.

Would Simon accept a similar challenge I wonder?

[Aratos]

Simon Cowell's a cinical bastard who tells the complete truth and doesn't care what folk think.

Just like me, then...

[YamPuff]

No way...he's totally out of your league. :p

[Aratos]

Boo! That guy's a wimp I tells ya!

[YamPuff]

But you said he's just like you. Wimp.

[Nekochii]

Sometimes I get the feeling he insults contestants, not because he's expressing feelings and opinions, but because it's expected of him. He seems like a nice guy, it just sucks that his signature trademark is being a total jerk.

[YamPuff]

Now, I don't watch American Idol, but from the few times I did watch it, plus seeing him on Hollywood Squares a few times and on commercials, I have never seen him act like a jerk. If he sees something he doesn't like, he says so, and on American Idol its usually towards their own good. Maybe he has become influenced by the fact that its expected of him by now, but still, I like him and his acid tongue.

[Aratos]

Oh, he's a lot nicer than y'might think, even on the TV. See, he wis talking about Pop Idol on The Story Of Light Entertainment a couple of weeks back. He acts like that because, quite frankly, that's exactly how you'll be treated if you go to a real, non-televised audition and try to become a pop star. That and he doesn't think it's right to go and praise people for being crap, when the truth is so much more helpful to them. In fact non-televised stuff is so much nastier. Simon Cowel knows talent, and more importantly he knows what sells, and the music industry is all about making cash.

Oh, and when I said he's a wimp I meant compared to me. He's nasty to people because they deserve it. I'm nasty to people because I enjoy it. Maybe. (¬_¬)

[YamPuff]

I remember being surprised when I watched American Idol for the first time. I was like, isn't he the hated evil judge? What's wrong with him that I can't see? I liked him from the start. He seemed like a nice guy, just cranky XD

I guess people are biased by the fact that he picks on their favorites?

@Aratos: You overrate, yourself. Put your money where your mouth is...all this talk of hate mail no one ever sees. Posts are cheap. :p

[Aratos]

What hate mail? I prefer to insult people to their face, dude.

That said, in your case it seems that "posts are cheap" is an understatement. To be honest, you really should've done us all a favour and not wasted the bandwidth taken to load that post and jsut not psoted. Yeah.

Ok, I'm crap at insulting folk on forums. It's a tone-of-voice thing.

[Freakazoid]

The only reason i watch the show is to see simon insult people
because it sure ain't for the music. I find all the contestants laughably
bad buti'm not saying i could do better.

[Aratos]

There's music on American idol? Good lord, that's amazing. Pop idol just had a bunch of screeching idiots stuttering away. On the plus side, it also had Ant and Dec presenting.

[Freakazoid]

I thought the same thing till i actually listened to all the noise.

[YamPuff]

What hate mail? I prefer to insult people to their face, dude.

That said, in your case it seems that "posts are cheap" is an understatement. To be honest, you really should've done us all a favour and not wasted the bandwidth taken to load that post and jsut not psoted. Yeah.

Ok, I'm crap at insulting folk on forums. It's a tone-of-voice thing.
Now, I could say posting "Well that's your own stupid fault." (http://messageboard.tokyopop.com/forums/showthread.php?p=132965#post132965) is likewise a waste of bandwith and moreso since mine was meant as a friendly joke and that obviously wasn't. But I won't. Besides, I was referring to the hate mail you claimed to have recieved. *shrug*

Enough off-topickness!!

Simon Cowell made American Idol. No ever talks about the other judges. They don't have great personnas. The biggest hype surrounding the series is usually the nastiness of Simon.

[renrenren]

he's honest. maybe a lil TOO honest. -_-;

[Kaoru]

Sometimes I get the feeling he insults contestants, not because he's expressing feelings and opinions, but because it's expected of him. He seems like a nice guy, it just sucks that his signature trademark is being a total jerk.
My thoughts exactly. Sometimes his comments seem kinda forced.

[Aratos]

Now, I could say posting "Well that's your own stupid fault." (http://messageboard.tokyopop.com/forums/showthread.php?p=132965#post132965) is likewise a waste of bandwith and moreso since mine was meant as a friendly joke and that obviously wasn't. But I won't. Besides, I was referring to the hate mail you claimed to have recieved. *shrug*


Oh, that hatemail. Well if the forums here didn't have such tiny tiny PM storage thingy's I'd be able to drag an example up. As it stands I can't be bothered going and searching elsewhere in the hope I kept one. Not that I need ot prove anything.

Oh, and my comment was a reply. Merely that and nothing more. Not to mention it wasn't meant as the insult it was evidently taken as: it was simply stating the facts. Some people just take stuff too personally. </OT>

[YamPuff]

^ I was wondering about that that.
My thoughts exactly. Sometimes his comments seem kinda forced.
Yeah, it';s like..."I like him but dammit I gotta put him down somwehow...ratings and all..." :P

[Aratos]

Well of course his comments feel kinda forced. He's now obliged to make more comments becasue that's what the public, and therefore the producers, demand. Of course American TV is much worse than British in that respect.

[renrenren]

yeah pretty sure some of it is forced or preplanned. but aren't all things forced & preplanned to some extent? & aww... i miss bbc... T_T but then again i miss cable or satellite tv altogther. *glad to have internet @ the least*

[Aratos]

Well most of hwat I do and say is completely unplanned and spontaneous. Y'wouldn't realise it, what with my amazing wit, eh? No? Please yourself.

I say get rid of reality TV and bring back real sitcoms with slapstick and surrealism and spam and turnips, personally.

[YamPuff]

I ADORE my BBC; compared to it, American TV is nothing. The only problem is when I start saying things like 'quid' and 'have you got' by accident. >< Their reality TV shows are much less hype-based and celebrity-obsessed. One of my all-time fave shows, Strictly Come Dancing is far, far better than its American rip-offs, Dancing With the Stars and Skating With Celebrities. God, even the names of the shows are dumb.
I say get rid of reality TV and bring back real sitcoms with slapstick and surrealism and spam and turnips, personally.
Hear, hear

[Kaoru]

I agree with you that most TV here sucks, but I don't see British TV as all that great either. Of course I don't like any TV, except Adult Swim, so go figure.
Well of course his comments feel kinda forced. He's now obliged to make more comments becasue that's what the public, and therefore the producers, demand.
And that's why I don't like him really. He went from brutally honest critic to just some TV personality with a signature thing.

[TonightMidnight]

Well that's what people want. In every reality show where there are judges there is always:

A Nice One (Paula)

A Mediocre One (Randy...or whatever his name is. It's Randy right?)

A Harsh One (Simon)

Those are the "guidelines" to being a reality TV judge.

[Kaoru]

Just another reason reality TV sucks.

[renrenren]

Well most of hwat I do and say is completely unplanned and spontaneous. Y'wouldn't realise it, what with my amazing wit, eh? No? Please yourself.

I say get rid of reality TV and bring back real sitcoms with slapstick and surrealism and spam and turnips, personally.

i meant planned on tv shows. lol in real life nothing goes as planned i swear. *bangs head on desk*

[YamPuff]

Aw, no one hates his guts yet? Guys, if you have any love in your hearts for Simon, say you hate him! Or he will cry T___T
Well that's what people want. In every reality show where there are judges there is always:

A Nice One (Paula)

A Mediocre One (Randy...or whatever his name is. It's Randy right?)

A Harsh One (Simon)

Those are the "guidelines" to being a reality TV judge.
Well that's what made me love Strictly Come Dancing; they didn't fall along those guidelines. There was the head judge, Len, (who was this great older guy you wish was your grandad) >< who was usually nice but could be picky. The harsh one, Craig, was always honest, and could even dish out the compliments if you did well enough. My personal fave was Bruno, the guy with the heavy Itallian accent and a habit of picking faves. And, of course, Arlene the acid-tongued judge with a habit of falling for younger guys :p.

It was the funnest thing to watch them start squabbling when they disagreed. :D I just realised...I need to make a Strictly Come Dancing thread ><

[LUKEJAKE17]

i like simon cowell.he makes me laugh. he speaks the truth. and also ill mention it doesnt matter whether you can sing or not, you can pass comment on someone being stupid,

[Seal Pup]

I dislike Simon Cowell for bringing terrible teeny popper bopper music into public domain. But I do like the way he insults the auditionies. An his job isn't to sing, he's not a singer. So whether he's a good singer or not, is irrelevant. An I don't think his insults are necessarily forced. Nobody encourages me to mock the contestants on those shows, but I have a never ending supply of insults for them. Their getting insulted for their own good anyway. The reason you get terrible singers auditioning thinking their good in the first place, is due to people deluding them that they're good at it, an not telling them the truth.

[ghanima]

i Like Simon, he's right most of the time. he might be a bit mean about it but better that he tell it like it is than skirt the truth and give you some insipid bull about how pretty your dress is and how peopel like you. (I'm referring to Paula)
Even when he's wrong I respect his opinion.

[Kurapica]

I don't like him or hate him, but he does make me laugh. Especially during the auditions.

[Nekochii]

I don't like him or hate him, but he does make me laugh. Especially during the auditions.
I know. I only watch the auditions cause they're so funny. The rest of it I can't be bothered with, especially since I can't even vote!

And yes, I know there is a Canadian Idol, but it's just not the same.

[Meroko Yui]

I don't watch American Idol, but I have heard him..... true he weeds out the less-talented, but he's a little too blunt. He is entertaining though...

[*Sakurafairy*]

he's a bit of an ass.He can be really really %$~@&%^!!!!!!!
but it makes for excellent crappy tv
I laugh :D

[Yuna19]

I think he is the worlds biggest jerk and shouldn't even be on TV! He crushes peoples dreams of becoming a star, then if they are the winner they are able to prove him....

[Nekochii]

I think he is the worlds biggest jerk and shouldn't even be on TV! He crushes peoples dreams of becoming a star
Maybe, but a lot of the time what he says is true. I mean do really think these people can become famouse pop stars? http://youtube.com/watch?v=G0ptz9Fl_tA

Ya, I didn't think so. :rolleyes:

[animefever]

He's rude, obnoxious, and takes advantage of his job.

[RKambereyes]

I kinda like to watch him even though he's harsh sometimes. Sometimes I think the people who audition sometimes are actors. SOME people.

[Snubsnub]

I don't understand why people are always saying "Oh, I would like to see him sing and see him get critizied". It is his friggen job to judge, NOT to sing.
I love how he insults those crappy singers. Its true. I said it. there are crappy singers that audition and waste peoples times. Why do they even audition if they can't sing? This is why he is so harsh, and it makes me laugh everytime he makes fun/insults one of the auditioners. Hehe. Its actually good that he makes them understand *I guess* that they aren't very good, and is saving them from embarassment. Even though they have already been embarassed because they are on national t.v.

I vote that Simon Cowel is awesome, and love his insults, makes people laugh xD, and his behavior on the show.

[YamPuff]

I kinda like to watch him even though he's harsh sometimes. Sometimes I think the people who audition sometimes are actors. SOME people.
Well, apparantly they're chosen for a reason:
The contestants selected despite lack of singing talent for appearance before the panel provide a major attraction to the viewing audience as they simultaneously proclaim their talent while turning out gut-wrenching performances which are ridiculed by the judges.

[Aratos]

In other words they put them on to make the auditions entertaining. Who'd'a thunk?

Of course there was one fellow on in the UK Pop Idol who was a scary stalker type. Now _that_ was entertaining.

"I know where you all live. And I know you'll pick me for the finals" *grin grin*

[TonightMidnight]

Ha ha. Simon's being even meaner this season. I like it.

[YamPuff]

In other words they put them on to make the auditions entertaining. Who'd'a thunk?
It all comes down to teh ratings.

[M3LaNi3]

simon's expressions are hilarious, especially during the auditions.. no offence to those people who auditioned and got booted but yea some of them just cant sing, a little harsh to be told so on national tv but if its not their fate to sing, its not their fate. [not saying that people cant sing among their families and stuff but com'on its american idol, would you actually vote for a person who couldnt sing in tune to be your idol and represent your country?]

[Aratos]

a little harsh to be told so on national tv


No, no, if they weren't there of their own free will it might be harsh, but if they choose to stick themselves in front of a TV camera and attempt to sing then they're volounteering to take it good and hard.

[M3LaNi3]

ah true true..

[Talim]

My daddy says that the only reason he watches A.I. is to see how Mr.Simon will make fun of the contestants. Lol, but that is kinda mean.

[FluffyKitsune]

I find Simon Cowel repugnant! He is smug, unkind, rude and can make very hurtful personal comments.

Ok the show attracts a lot of deluded people, but there are nice ways of telling people they are crap without adding things like "Oh and you remind me of Vicky Pollard" (a character from the comedy sketch show" Little Britain") that sort of thing is just cruel and IMO unnecessary. But I guess to some people that is good entertainment.:confused:

I agree that the man knows the pop business but he is only looking for a certain type of singer there is no originality in the show at all IMHO.

[Aratos]

Well there's no originality in the music industry either. So it all works out.

[FluffyKitsune]

Well there's no originality in the music industry either. So it all works out.

I would agree that mainstream pop, which is what the show seems to be all about has no originality in it.

But I certainly don't agree that the whole of the music industry is unoriginal!:eek:

[Aratos]

Ok, there's no band around that hasn't been going for over a decade which is at all original. Nothing new.

[FluffyKitsune]

Ok, there's no band around that hasn't been going for over a decade which is at all original. Nothing new.

If you say so aratos!

*cough* Arctic monkeys *cough*

Anyway this is totally off topic

[Aratos]

Uh, Arctic Monkeys aren't original. And suck.

[Kaoru]

Uh, Arctic Monkeys aren't original. And suck. I endorse this statement.

But then again I think saying nothing recently has been original is a little extreme.

[Aratos]

ok, nothing's been original and worked, then.

[Kaoru]

It also depends on what you think of as 'original' too.
Like a band I like, The Faint, are pretty original, but I know you'd probably call them not.
Watch bezznacter! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8mJfDPxuA)

What this have to do with Simon Cowel you ask? Absolutely nothing.

[FluffyKitsune]

Uh, Arctic Monkeys aren't original. And suck.I endorse this statement.

You are entitled to your opinions :cool: My point was not about whether they were a good band or not.

Singing with a strong northern accent seems pretty original to me it makes a change from all the fake American accents people adopt when they sing. Simon Cowel would never have allowed it :D

[Kaoru]

Admit it, Simon Cowel is gheeey.

[Aratos]

Uh, yeah....

You don't listen to many UK groups, do you? I reccomend in particular looking at the punk and new wave movements...

[Kaoru]

Who? FluffyKitsune or me? :confused:

[Aratos]

Fluffykitsune.

Sorry, cross-posted there. Shoulda made it more obvious.

[Kaoru]

'bout to say....

[Aratos]

pfft. I'm doing multiple things at once. Slowing me down.

[FluffyKitsune]

You don't listen to many UK groups, do you? I reccomend in particular looking at the punk and new wave movements...

Obviously not as many as you!:rolleyes:

Maybe the Arctic Monkeys was a bad example but I still maintain that there is some originality in the music industry even if it's just on the folk scene or whatever :D

You just like having the last word don't you:p

[Aratos]

No, no all I'm saying is that singing with a "northern accent" isn't at all original. Or singing with any accent that isn't fake for that matter.

[Kaoru]

You just like having the last word don't you:p
Oh that he does.

[Aratos]

Rubbish. I just feel that if someone's going to make a statement that's innacurate, I should correct them.

[Kaoru]

Rubbish. I just feel that if someone's going to make a statement that's innacurate, I should correct them.
There you go again. Stating your opinion as fact.

[Aratos]

Well in this case it wasn't an opinion. Singing in an accent that isn't fake-Americna is not original.

[TonightMidnight]

I would agree that mainstream pop, which is what the show seems to be all about has no originality in it.

But I certainly don't agree that the whole of the music industry is unoriginal!:eek:

Why is "Mainstream Pop" the only genre that ever gets picked apart? Psh, like everything else is a masterpiece. There is a lot of rock, country...etc that's unoriginal.

Honestly, Simon can be a little mean when he starts going after peoples' physical appearance and weight, but he's only saying what everyone else is thinking. Not to mention he's softening the blow the contestants will receive once they really get in the public eye.

[Kaoru]

Well in this case it wasn't an opinion. Singing in an accent that isn't fake-Americna is not original.
I'm sure in the eyes of someone it is.

[zohal]

i dont like it when he talks about the contestants physical appearance. but i luv it when he tells the honest truth about how some ppl are untalented. i;m beginning to hate his phrase, "i'm not being rude but...." but what u bastard? just say it. he never finishes his sentences properly. paula always cuts him off. but anyway i luv american idol i hope season 6 is better than season 5. i dont like taylor hicks. i've always rooted for chris daughtry. i was at anime north when i heard of the unfortunate news from my friend that he was voted off. (i swear, it had to have been a mistake)
anyway i luv simon. he's the one that keeps the show entertaining.
why do think that canadian idol sucks?
its because of their stupid judges who only care for ratings.
anyway, so anyone here actually have the guts to audition infront simon?

[FluffyKitsune]

Why is "Mainstream Pop" the only genre that ever gets picked apart? Psh, like everything else is a masterpiece. There is a lot of rock, country...etc that's unoriginal.


I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear. I wasn't saying that all other genres were original. I was just responding to aratos's sweeping statement about the whole music industry lacking originality.

[Aratos]

I didn't say the whole industry. I just said more or less everyone in the industry that's been around less than a decade.

And until I see proof otherwise, I'll stick to that view.

[FluffyKitsune]

Well there's no originality in the music industry either. So it all works out.

I beg your pardon but you did! :p

But ok, you didn't mean quite what you originally posted :D

[Aratos]

Ok, so I should've been less vague and ambiguous, and I accept that. Tsk.