Battle Royale

[Lady Kaoru]

This one blew me away!! I was hooked so bad I couldn't stop reading! Just goes to show that translations can carry over quite well.

[Countess Cain]

I loved it, in a sick, gruesome sort of way. The characters were much more indepth in the book rather than in the movie. (Like Kiriyama.)

[Lady Kaoru]

I wasn't as impressed with the manga, but I'm curious to see the movie.

[Aratos]

And on the subject of the movie, anyone know what the best subitile track to get is? I'm stuck with the Tartan track which features the caption "do you know what that means?" during the lighthouse scene, which I'm told is the correct translation. On the other hand I saw one on the Tv which had it as "what does it all mean", but on the other hand got the bit with Kitano saying about "it was you, not Mimura" and all that to Kawada, so I'm really not sure. Problem is I can't find anyone else that's seen that version.

[MorbidGnome]

I loved the book to death. It's my favorite version of BR. I got a lot of my friends to read it too. Guess it's a bit weird to enjoy the killing scenes that much. x_x

[supersaiyanneo]

Yes, it was made into a manga, but it was originally a book. I was wondering if anyone else read the book book. I read it and its one of my favorite's. I tried reading the manga though and just couldnt get into it. Comments anyone?

[Adrian_Alexander]

theres already a topic about this...

[dreamcatcher]

I haven't read the manga but I have seen the movies. I liked the first one better. The second wasn't really that good, but I still like it.

[PeterAhlstrom]

I really enjoyed the novel. And the translation was pretty good. Wasn't sold on the packaging though.

[Riotfug]

Where can I get my hands on a copy of the english translation of this novel?

[Aratos]

Amazon would be your best bet. I got my copy from Waterstones, but it took a lot of searching.

[Riotfug]

Thanks!

[Chiaki]

Amazon would be your best bet. I got my copy from Waterstones, but it took a lot of searching.
Are you talking about just buying the Manga (english) version of BR by tokyopop?
We sell them in our bookstore, Ottakars since they are I think the only chain store to provide Tokyopop (apart from smaller chains like Forbidden planet and seperte stores)

[Riotfug]

We're talking about the novel

[Aratos]

Waterstones and Ottakars both sell manga. Waterstones has a smaller selection though.

[Riotfug]

We've got one Waterstones bookstore in ireland, well one that I know of, in dublin. Thanks for the info everyone!

[circaocean]

is it true tht the books better than the movie?? and yes i know it usualy is

[Aratos]

It's more likely to make you feel sick. They both have their merits really, and it's a matter of opinion which is better. Personally, I prefer book Kiriyama to film Kiriyama, but then I prefer film Mitsuko to book Mitsuko. Which is sorta odd. But then film Kiriyama has a better haircut. The book wins overall for story I suppose.

[Chiaki]

is it true tht the books better than the movie?? and yes i know it usualy is
The books are well more detailed about the story than the movie but since it has to squeeze it all in I though it was great
The first movie blew my mind away, it was seriously amazing, the second was pants though
I didn't know that there was a novel of it (is that where they got the idea for the manga?)

[Aratos]

Novel written by Koushun Takami. Manga written by Koushun Takami and drawn by Masayuki Taguchi at the same time as film written by Kenta Fukasaku and directed by Kinji Fukasaku. Sequel film written and mostly directed by Kenta Fukusaku whilst Koushun Takami makes another manga called blitz royale, publsihed in some magazine or other. Kenta mucks up storyline with sequal which whilst a good film was full of plot errors, Keith Giffen mucks up manga by changing huge chunks of the storyline, and leaving gaping plot errors. The result? Opinion amongst fans winds up horribly divided. Some like BR2, some hate it. Some love the adaptation of the manga, some hate it. Some like the novel, some hate it. Seems the film's the only one everyone agrees upon.

[Shadow fox]

How Now Brown Cow we watched BR in my english class (then 15 now 16) which was kinda odd but still cool to watch after theat went out and got vol 1-7 from Ottakars in Cirensester and yer in is so cool that we spent a term analizing it:p

[Aratos]

Isn't that ilegal?

[Shadow fox]

Don't view it as illegal more as Education but hay it was worht it all though i did get in trouble for saying that we should do that at my school.

Pluse we did have perental concent so the school was fine with it

[Aratos]

I'm more interested in what the government would think of it, but w/e.
Is analysing it actually a good thing though? I mean, (A)Analysing a book ruins it and (B)The manga's so different to Takamis original storyline that surely you'd have lost something by missing out on all the themes he stuck in? Of course the closest analysis I've ever given the novel was "The main theme is evidently trust", so I can't really talk.

[Shadow fox]

AHAH you win :eek: don't go for my eyes ill stop going on about the adventures my english class has.

although there was that one time when we anoyed the living dead...

oh and im dislexic so i cann't spell that well any way hay i think i even spelt that wrong as well

[Koshiba]

My favorite form of the Battle Royale series would have to be the novel. I bought it on the day of it's released and it didn't take me long to finish since I was really hooked on it as well. :)

[Andrew Cunningham]

Novel written by Koushun Takami. Manga written by Koushun Takami and drawn by Masayuki Taguchi at the same time as film written by Kenta Fukasaku and directed by Kinji Fukasaku. Sequel film written and mostly directed by Kenta Fukusaku whilst Koushun Takami makes another manga called blitz royale, publsihed in some magazine or other.

Koushun Takami was not heavily involved in either manga.
The second manga is by Tomizawa Hitoshi, who did the Alien 9 manga, and is pretty interesting. Much better than the second movie.
I really should get around to reading the novel in Japanese...loved it in English.

[Aratos]

then why did he act like he was involved in it during the interview in volume 8?

[Andrew Cunningham]

then why did he act like he was involved in it during the interview in volume 8?

Oops. Usually they aren't heavily involved in adaptations, and there were no signs of his involvement in the second manga, which is a straight up Tomizawa book.

[Alphonse Elric]

i liked it

[Kurono]

I personally enjoyed the movie more, especially Kiriyama. I read the book a while ago and enjoyed, but didn't get through it as fast as I do other books. I can usually read a 400 page book in three days if I'm into it. I did like some of the designs of the characters in the book, but the author added in some pretty dumb stuff into the manga. I still enjoy it though.

As for the movie, their really is no comparison between the 2 movies for me at least because they were so completely different. It was a different time in the characters life.
I'm not sure what version of the movie I have. I'll have to watvch it and get back to you.

[Kurono]

And on the subject of the movie, anyone know what the best subitile track to get is? I'm stuck with the Tartan track which features the caption "do you know what that means?" during the lighthouse scene, which I'm told is the correct translation. On the other hand I saw one on the Tv which had it as "what does it all mean", but on the other hand got the bit with Kitano saying about "it was you, not Mimura" and all that to Kawada, so I'm really not sure. Problem is I can't find anyone else that's seen that version.


I just checked and mine is the "correct" version, which says "Do you know what that means?" Sorry

[Aratos]

Not to seem nagging or anything, but how d'ya know it's the "correct" version exactly? The one that comes with the tartan release certainly isn't 100% acurate.

[Kurono]

Sorry about that. I took your words wrong. I thought you meant that it was the correct version, not supposedly the correct version. As far as the "correct" version, I have no idea which one it is. Sorry again.

[Dusty Chalk]

I need to read this. I read the "free" translation of the first 10 chapters, and now I have to read the whole book...

[Kantami]

I really want to see the movie and I saw battle royale in english in Borders in this shopping place called Gallions reach in East london! They have it up to Volume 8!

[edel]

Wow I saw Battle royale 2:requem and i was like what? Shuya Nanahara killed like hundreds of innocent people in the opening sequence....!!!!! WTH!!!

[Aratos]

No, Nanahara Shuya did not kill hundreds of innocent people in the opening sequence. A few buildings were blown up in the opening sequence which may have been attributed to Nanahara Shuya's guerilla group. Nowhere does it say he himself killed those people. I thought it was quite good actually. The way he'd evidently been affected by the things he'd seen, and got the idea into his head that the response was to declare war on the grown-ups.

[ArGus]

I've watched the movie and read the book. I prefered the book by far. I've heard of how BR:2 sucked, so I'm not even bothering to check it out.

[alucard666]

battle royale is my favorite book. the first movie was good, but i didn't care for the second one that much.

[Aratos]

I've heard of how BR:2 sucked, so I'm not even bothering to check it out.

Must be great being a sheep and letting other people form your opinions for you.

[bookviper]

I'm about 100 pages away from finishing the book and I have to say that it's one of the better books I've read recently. Sadly I've only been able to watch the movies raw but I'm still impressed with the first movie. The second just wasn't as good. Read the manga as well but the translation/re-write left me unimpressed in many scenes. The novel is my favorite media when in comes down to it. And in every version I can't help but love Takako *sigh*

[Andrew Cunningham]

Must be great being a sheep and letting other people form your opinions for you.

How else do people decide what's worth seeing?

[SaiRong]

I'm halfway through the book right now, and I'm really enjoying it. Before this I only read the manga (I have yet to see the movie). I had thought the book would be the most indepth, but suprisingly so far I've found the manga goes deeper into the characters. While it seemed like there was a flashback to life 'before the game' in every other manga chapter, in the book the character's lives outside of the game only gets refferred to now and then. I do like how the book seems to have a more political slant (though maybe that just got lost in the manga thanks to Keith Griffen's re-write). I wish I had more time to read, so I could finish it quickly.

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[Aratos]

How else do people decide what's worth seeing?

Well personally, I watch it and find out. But then evidently being a free-thinker's not acceptable nowadays so I must be wierd.

[alucard666]

How else do people decide what's worth seeing?

if it sounded good to you, you should see it. if it didn't sound good to you, don't see it. have you never liked something someone else didn't?

[Aratos]

Ok, show of hands. Anyone here want to tell me that they and their peers all like and hate exactly the same stuff? Anyone? Great, thats settled then.

[mei-chan]

I really liked the book, written well, and you get to know the characters very well. I did not like the movie as much, gues it was ok. I hope the novelist will hurry and write something new soon

[alucard666]

he's supposed to be working on his second book now.

[Heero]

Ok, personally i thought the book was pretty sw33t. I mean, i just ate it up. I didnt read the manga before the book, but once i started reading the manga, it didnt come up to par with the book. Anyways, did anyone else get to read it?

[Aratos]

Royale, not royal.

Anywho, I'm a huge fan of Battle Royale. Love it. Love love love. Read my dog-eared copy several times, seen the film over and over, love et. And have 11 volumes of the manga despite believing biffen's translation to be a steaming pile of cow****. Go figure.

[Cuperos]

print errors really piss me off...and the writing style is so bland...oh well...at least the manga gives the story justice

movies were ok (not as dark or deep but meh)...at least they continued the story on the movie

[Banna]

I liked BR quite a bit and read it several times. But I lost it when I was moving back home from Japan and gotta buy a new one. :mad: