Clamp No Kiseki

[luningning]

i think i missplaced my orginal post, instead of placing it here i placed it on MANGA

Anyway, is there any chance that TP would release the chessboard, the box and the extra suppi and kero-chan pieces? :)

[PeterAhlstrom]

We've discussed this, but it's not very likely, seeing that CLAMP no Kiseki is not selling very well as it is. I don't believe some sort of arrangement has been ruled out completely though.

[Arcademan]

I'm really shocked there's no love for the CLAMP no kiseki here in the United States. I have been collecting all the books and chess pieces and loving the series as a whole. I do have the complete chess set from Japan and the detail's stunning. As far as a chess board, the Japanese version is a plain black and white board with a slip cover to hold all 12 magazine...very disappointing. I use a glass chess board for my collection.

[earthboundwish]

I've got up to #3 right now. Haven't bought any more because they're too big for my current living space. >___< I'll get around to it eventually~...

If the chessboard and extras stuff were being released, I'd definitely be sure to pick the whole English release up. :D

[PeterAhlstrom]

The chessboard is nothing special. It's really cheaply made. The extra figures are the same quality as the others, though, so they would be nice to have...

[Arcademan]

The chessboard is nothing special. It's really cheaply made. The extra figures are the same quality as the others, though, so they would be nice to have...

The board is plain. Though I'm using a crystal glass chessboard to hold all of my pieces, I was thinking of making a personal one, with scenes of CLAMP characters making up all 64 squares on the chess board. Now THAT would be cool :)

[SakuraRay]

Were both Queens meant to be white on the English set, or have i managed to get the only odd coloured set? I never checked when i bought it! :S

[Arcademan]

The white pieces have Sakura and Tomoyo both as queens. Yuuko is the black queen.

[SakuraRay]

Why was there two white queens? Did it finish off the sets in 3? I was kinda confused about the two white ones, thanks for enlightening me! >^^<

[dreamcatcher]

I'd really like to start buying them but they cost too much for me. Therefore I usually end up buying manga instead

[Arcademan]

12 issues - 12 sets of 3 pieces = 36 pieces. As most chess players know, there are 32 pieces so there's 4 extras. The white has a spare queen and bishop, the black side a spare king and bishop. Here's a picture of all of them. I wish I had a better one:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/Arcademan/CLAMP/chesspieces.jpg

[SakuraRay]

Hey, manga's just as good, heheh! I get some if it isn't there instead...
::innocent::

[PeNCILz]

Hey Arcademan! Why do you have Cardacptor Sakura manga scans in your gallery when it is liscensed by Tokyopop? Do you know how many laws you ish breaking by doing that?

[SakuraRay]

As we can tell i ain't - but that's ~~~sooo~~~ kewl! Nice to see what a full set looks like - I'll probably never own the full set, haha!

[dreamcatcher]

12 issues - 12 sets of 3 pieces = 36 pieces. As most chess players know, there are 32 pieces so there's 4 extras. The white has a spare queen and bishop, the black side a spare king and bishop. Here's a picture of all of them. I wish I had a better one:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/Arcademan/CLAMP/chesspieces.jpg


that's a cool collection ya got there

[Arcademan]

As we can tell i ain't - but that's ~~~sooo~~~ kewl! Nice to see what a full set looks like - I'll probably never own the full set, haha!

I bought the set from Japan on eBay for $90 a few months back. That saved a lot of $$$ for me however I still collect the U.S. TokyoPop version of CLAMP no kiseki.

[SakuraRay]

Either way it's totally uber! >^^<

[Arcademan]

Hey Arcademan! Why do you have Cardacptor Sakura manga scans in your gallery when it is liscensed by Tokyopop? Do you know how many laws you ish breaking by doing that?

Those were the original Japanese scans and translated from and provided from a French website...and quite horribly I might add. Plus this is off-topic to this subject.

The subject is 'CLAMP no kiseki'. Thank You.

EDIT: For legal and copyright issues, the link to my site has been removed from my signature. Thank you.

[SakuraRay]

They really cost too much for me...but it's Clamp, so i give in!

Love your lil Sakura avatar, btw! It so cute!!

[Arcademan]

They really cost too much for me...but it's Clamp, so i give in!

Love your lil Sakura avatar, btw! It so cute!!

I changed it and then I read this :eek:

I have tons of them and will be rotating them but that's another thought for another thread ;)

[SakuraRay]

Well, look forward to seeing them >^^< I love her costumes >^^<

(I know that's off topic, sorry....I can't help myself)

[chibikodo]

We've discussed this, but it's not very likely, seeing that CLAMP no Kiseki is not selling very well as it is. I don't believe some sort of arrangement has been ruled out completely though.

I suspect that half of the reason why they are not selling very well is the fact that the boxes that I happen to see in stores are damaged, and I don't pay money for damaged goods. So perhaps it's that people are unwilling to shell out the $30 for a box that is mangled, and thus, it's not selling so well?

I for one, find the boxes and chesspieces to be very pretty. But I am very displeased with the fact that every time I go to a store to try to buy the fourth Clamp no Kiseki, it's always dented or damaged in some way... Is it just a "stores are incopetent at keeping things in one piece" thing? Or is there a shipping problem which leads to the boxes getting damaged?

[PeterAhlstrom]

That's honestly the first time I've ever heard of the boxes being damaged.

[luningning]

really? It would be ok for if the box was slightly damaged... but what i got instead when i bought the 5th volume was a torn page :( The bookstore, didn't want to exchange it. :(

Anyway, about the chess pieces, I think it would be more practical was if there are also 2 black queens. You know the rule in chess, if ur pawn gets to the end of ur opponent's board, then u get to change it to any chess piece u want. Most people would choose a queen. :)

[Rayechu]

On the sales of Clamp no Kiseki-
I have bought every volume that has come out. Some problems I have seen though are that it just isn't available.
1. Isn't this a Borders exclusive? I personally don't like Borders, but there are no other bookstores around. Maybe people who do have other store choices are just not shopping at Borders?
2. None of the Borders stores around here have even gotten issue 6 or have it in the warehouse for me to special order. I can't buy a product that isn't on the shelf.

[luningning]

I think that volume 6 is late by aout 2 weeks. Don't know why, though. I was a little bit worried because this is the 1st time that it was late. kindda daunting to think that ur almost halfway through the collection, and then to miss up on one. Hey, vlume 7 is up for grabs next month! ^_^ can't wait...

[Liannah]

really? It would be ok for if the box was slightly damaged... but what i got instead when i bought the 5th volume was a torn page :( The bookstore, didn't want to exchange it. :(

Anyway, about the chess pieces, I think it would be more practical was if there are also 2 black queens. You know the rule in chess, if ur pawn gets to the end of ur opponent's board, then u get to change it to any chess piece u want. Most people would choose a queen. :)

Yeah, I bought like 3 versions of issue number 4 before I was able to get a non-damaged one. The book was ripped the first time (And a major rip right down the cover), the pages inside the second were all crumpled (Although why, I don't know).

[Liannah]

On the sales of Clamp no Kiseki-
I have bought every volume that has come out. Some problems I have seen though are that it just isn't available.
1. Isn't this a Borders exclusive? I personally don't like Borders, but there are no other bookstores around. Maybe people who do have other store choices are just not shopping at Borders?
2. None of the Borders stores around here have even gotten issue 6 or have it in the warehouse for me to special order. I can't buy a product that isn't on the shelf.

I buy mine at the local comic store in my town (In Canada) so it's not a Borders exclusive since we don't even have Border's here :D

[luningning]

Wish there was Borders here. At least prices would be regulated.

[Rayechu]

I buy mine at the local comic store in my town (In Canada) so it's not a Borders exclusive since we don't even have Border's here :D

Ooops well it isn't supposed to be. Maybe canada is different?

CLAMP no Kiseki is produced in extremely limited quantities and is available ONLY at Waldenbooks & Borders bookstores and comic book shops nationwide!
-from the Tokyopop website.

[adichappo]

We've discussed this, but it's not very likely, seeing that CLAMP no Kiseki is not selling very well as it is. I don't believe some sort of arrangement has been ruled out completely though.

I e-mailed the "info" people at Tokyopop about the possibility of a US release of the chess board/box and extra Kero and Souppy pieces a few weeks ago and their reply was "It will be the same as the Japanese version." This led me to believe that there will be a US release eventually. Now I'm confused :confused:

As for the condition of the store boxes, what damage i've seen in my stores has definatly been due to retailers mishandling the merchandise...althoguht it's been nothing to what some others here have appearantly seen. I usually get my issues from Boarders just cus there close and i can use my coupons, but i have also seen them at my local anime store - and i know they treat their merch very nicely :D . My big thing is that it seems that the last three issues have been coming out later and later from the initial release date. I first found #6 almost 1 month after the street date posted. Is this a trend i should expect from now on?

[Arcademan]

Never had a problem with the boxes themselves and bought #6 through Tokyopop's online shop. Came in perfect condition though the email they sent me confirming the shipping informed me that they will no longer sell the series through their online store.

[adichappo]

Never had a problem with the boxes themselves and bought #6 through Tokyopop's online shop. Came in perfect condition though the email they sent me confirming the shipping informed me that they will no longer sell the series through their online store.

That scares me. :( I really hope they don't slowly stop releasing them before the series is done. I wonder if we make enough noise if they would eventually give in and release the extra pieces and chess board over here.
*ahem*
RELEASE KERO, SOUPPY AND THE CHESS BOARD IN THE US!!
RELEASE KERO, SOUPPY AND THE CHESS BOARD IN THE US!!
RELEASE KERO, SOUPPY AND THE CHESS BOARD IN THE US!!
RELEASE KERO, SOUPPY AND THE CHESS BOARD IN THE US!!
please! :D
as the really cool owner of my local anime store said, even though not many people buy Clamp no Kiseki, those that do are the die hard fans and would definatly buy they extra pieces and stuff if they were released. *hopes*

[Ritsuka]

is there any chance of Clamp no Kiseki being released in the uk at all?

[vequinox]

I definitely don't mean this as a dig at Tokyopop, but I really think it's the price that's the problem. Many manga purchasers are in their teens and they have to weigh if they want to buy about 3 manga vs. one Clamp no Kiseki. The books are very thin for the price, even though they come with the 3 chess pieces.
That being said, I know the price is high because of various things such as the licensing. I think if they were around $20-$22 in stores, that'd be about right.
ALSO, I do buy a lot of my manga online, and the fact that Kiseki isn't available on Amazon.com really REALLY hurts it! (especially since you can't get the discount, since it isn't available)
It would be sweet if there were a way to buy JUST the chess set (which a lot of people have shown interest in), but I doubt Clamp's publishing group would allow that...

[adichappo]

Has anyone got volume 7 yet? The street date is tomorrow (4-11). It used to be that I could find them at Borders a week before the street date, now I'm lucky to find them a month after.

As far as price goes, I agree that it is steep for what you get - even tho the quality of the product is good. I guess I'm luckier then some, in that I use my Discover Card cash back bonuses toward them. Every three months or so I earn enough points to get a $25 Borders gift card. So far I've used them for every volume I've bought. ..tho they may not last me until the end of the series (if TokyoPop plans on releasing the rest of the series that is.....)

[Arcademan]

Tokyopop will release all 12 issues, that's without question. Now the quantity that will be released...that could be an issue. The Borders I go to seem to get the book well after the release date (which is why I got the last one through TP's online store plus 20% off was a good thing). As of 4-7-06 they still do not have the 6th issue. They have plenty of the first 5 and tend to reduce them occasionally 20% off.

[bearmoon]

Yeah. That's my big problem with buying Kiseki. The price is a little too high and I only see it at Borders. I don't shop at Borders. I'm a B&N girl. So the fact that I have to scurry over to Borders is a bit of a pain, although if nothing that I'm watching is out I pick up my copy of Kiseki. I only have 2 so far unfortunately. I want to pick up the others. It's just that my wallet suffers instead.

[mizushimo]

Has anyone got volume 7 yet? The street date is tomorrow (4-11). It used to be that I could find them at Borders a week before the street date, now I'm lucky to find them a month after.


I haven't even seen volume six at any of the Borders in my area. The last one
I've seen is the one featuring Clamp School Detectives on the cover :(

[Arcademan]

I guess I find out tommorrow whether Borders has it since I'll be by there since I have a 25% off coupon to my disposal ;)

[adichappo]

Checked out my Borders today...no such luck. They only have up to #6. For anyone looking, i've also seen them at WaldenBooks - who, or course, are owned by Borders, so there ya' go.

[luningning]

No such luck with Volume #7. I would have thought that by now it would be here.

[PeterAhlstrom]

If you don't find it in a store, you can have them order it in.

[Arcademan]

If you don't find it in a store, you can have them order it in.

You can also order it through Tokyopop itself and get 20% off on book #7 if you order by April 30. I bought #6 through Tokyopop and it came in perfect condition :)

[luningning]

can't order online. not only do i have no credit card, the shipping charges alone would be more expensive than the merchandise itself.

[Tiamat667]

Hey Peter, can't help but notice that on another message board you mentioned that Volume 7 has not gone to print yet and "not to expect it anytime soon". So what kind of time frame are we looking at before Volume 7 comes out? I'm getting a little worried since I notice nothing has been solicited past volume 8.

[YamPuff]

Of course few people buy it! Over twenty bucks for a thirty-two page picture book with chess pieces!!!???

*storms off*

[PeterAhlstrom]

Hey Peter, can't help but notice that on another message board you mentioned that Volume 7 has not gone to print yet and "not to expect it anytime soon". So what kind of time frame are we looking at before Volume 7 comes out? I'm getting a little worried since I notice nothing has been solicited past volume 8.
Yeah, in this case by not soon I mean...not in the next few weeks. It could be two or three or four months, but if it's not out by then, by then we'll for sure know when it will be coming. It's possible they could decide next week what they're going to do, and finish it up (volume 7 is almost done here in-house--work has stopped, pending a decision) and send it to the press and then it shows up in stores in a month and a half. But at this point I really don't know for sure what's going on--I'm not involved in the decision-making process, and I may not even find out until a couple weeks after a decision has been made.

[Tiamat667]

Ok, thank you for clearing that up.
It is just been very frustrating, with the volumes coming out later and later with each volume. I have friends who have gave up on the Tokyopop release of Kiseki in favor of imports due to the erratic release dates.

[PeterAhlstrom]

Volumes 1-6 were released exactly on time, two months apart, with nothing erratic about them. Each volume was shipped from the printer to our distributor's warehouses over one month before the release date. If they weren't at the bookstores you went to, it's because those bookstores did not order them in or only ordered a couple copies and sold them already. That's just the way it goes.

[adichappo]

Yeah, in this case by not soon I mean...not in the next few weeks. It could be two or three or four months, but if it's not out by then, by then we'll for sure know when it will be coming. It's possible they could decide next week what they're going to do, and finish it up (volume 7 is almost done here in-house--work has stopped, pending a decision) ....
I don't mean to be nosey but a decision about what? Do you mean whether or not it would be worth it to release the rest of the series? I could patiently wait a few more months if i knew they would eventually be released...and it would give me time to save up more cashback points to get Borders gift cards to buy them ^_^ I knew they are a bit pricy compared to regualr manga, but they AREN'T regualr manga and I for one have LOVED every issue that has come out...book and chess pieces ^_^

[PeterAhlstrom]

A decision on what the format and distribution will be. It's possible that the binding and/or packaging will change, but the form of that change or whether any change will happen at all hasn't been decided yet.

[luningning]

i hope u guys, could somehow post a tentative schedule for the release dates...

[PeterAhlstrom]

No. Sorry! :)

[Tiamat667]

My problem seems to be a distributor thing. I know my local borders placed orders, but they come in when they come in regardless of orders. Volume 1 and 2 came in about on time. Volume 3 and 4 came in a month post-street date. Volume 5 came in 6 weeks past street date. The only store in our area that has gotten volume 6 got it in last week, and our local store has had to try to ship their orders from them. The volumes seem to come later and later regardless of whether the store has ordered them. This gets very frustrating after a while.

[Tiamat667]

By the way Peter, I really do appreaciate the updates. I do hope a decision is made soon as to the status of the Kiseki series.

[adichappo]

Yes, thank you so much for the heads up on everything ^_^

[luningning]

yupyup! ^_^ anyway, can u post something here as soon as the 7th volume is released? I know that my local comicshop is getting annoyed with me calling every other day...

[qshoe1989]

I can't wait for more. They really are a strain on the wallet though... I do love them! Don't stop them or the artbooks!

[MephistoWaltz]

I wish I could buy the art books but they cost too much. Oh well.

[mizushimo]

I know that Borders Express stopped carrying them because they didn't sell well enough to justify the shelf space that they took up... I hope you guys don't stop doing them alltogether! I really want the rest of those chess pieces ;.;. Importing them would be painful on my wallet x.o

[luningning]

ive been waiting forever for the 7th volume.... ^_^

[hylentor]

Hi, I work in a comic shop, and our invoice had volume 7 as cancelled today - hopefully this gets resolicited, as I will not be happy with having spent $180 so far on half a chess set - not as much with the art books (they're cool, but I'm not a big art book person).

I'm the only one that's been ordering it in the shop, but we've been ordering it religiously.

[PeterAhlstrom]

It's still not canceled. When we have something to announce about resolicitation, we'll do so. :)

[Arcademan]

Tell TOKYOPOP to get on the ball! I want them for the art and the chess pieces (though I already have all the chess pieces through Japan)

[adichappo]

yeah yeah! In a perfect world, vol 9 would be out next month. I'm seriously considering spending the money to get the box for the chess pieces (tho it's quite a bit - wouldn't it be nice if they were to release it over here with the extra pieces ;-)). I guess I honestly don't know what the problem is. I know sales have ben slow and some stores over ordered them...but they're a COLLECTOR'S SERIES. They're not supposed to be as cheap as manga. That's why they're being released as a limited edition. I think the quality of the books, even down to the box, are superb. As someone who has just recently gotten into Clamp I enjoy reading the books and the interviews behind all the series. As a serious collector, I would be quite upset if the last 6 issues were a drastically different format from the first 6 - esp since I've already gone a bought the collectors box to hold them all in. I know we as fans can't sway your decision that much, but here's my vote to keep Clamp no Kiseki the same. ^_^

[taiyo]

I saw Kiseki when I was over there last year, I'm regretting not buying it now, because those chess pieces were so cool...

[TheCrane]

What happened to CLAMP no Kiseki?

After 6 Volumes, I can't find any more of them. The site only has links to the first six, but the seventh was once linked--but not anymore.

Was this series cancelled? I waited nearly a year between the the initial announcement and the first volume. And, now, it's disappeared.

Can anyone give me some info?

Cancelled?
Delayed?
Simply THAT hard to find?

[Arcademan]

What happened to CLAMP no Kiseki?

After 6 Volumes, I can't find any more of them. The site only has links to the first six, but the seventh was once linked--but not anymore.

Was this series cancelled? I waited nearly a year between the the initial announcement and the first volume. And, now, it's disappeared.

Can anyone give me some info?

Cancelled?
Delayed?
Simply THAT hard to find?

Try back-tracking in this thread...all the answers will be told...somewhat :confused:

[TheCrane]

Yes, pardon me... I'm a new member today looking for answers.

[Arcademan]

Yes, pardon me... I'm a new member today looking for answers.

When it comes to the CLAMP no kiseki series...we're all looking for answers.

Welcome to the forum. Hopefully TOKYOPOP will arrive with a solution soon to all of this ;)

[luningning]

my "manga to buy" list seems to be getting longer because of the delays of clamp no kiseki. T_T But i guess, its ok as long as they release the stuff. I wonder, if they're gonna do some price adjustments. Maybe that's what's causing delays. I wish they could drop the price to $20

[luningning]

a quick question, Amazon seems to have a listing of clamp no kiseki which it didn't have before. Amazon is selling this now? And accordin to the site, Volume 7 is gonna be released this july 30? Is this true?

[PeterAhlstrom]

No, that date is not correct for volume 7. It still has not been scheduled.

As for Amazon selling vols. 2-6, their listing makes it look like they'll start selling them at the end of the month. I personally hope that's true, but I haven't heard about it from this end--nor would I, really, unless I just happened to overhear it.

[MephistoWaltz]

I would REALLY love to buy Clamp no Kiseki. I mean come on chess pieces of my favorite characters is awesome. But the only problem is I'm broke! I have to save up for college and I already have a ton of mangas that I need to buy. If they'd lower the price I'd be more than happy to buy it. But of course life isn't that simple. >.<

[luningning]

ok. thanks for the info! ^_^

[Black Maru]

...I would think that it would have been a great idea to start releaseing vol. 7 at anime expo. I think that with all the buzz about them, that clamp no kiseki would sell. Know that people are buying them and waiting for the next installment. (please please please release the chess board and the little house for the chess pieces!!)

[adichappo]

(please please please release the chess board and the little house for the chess pieces!!)
I second that Please!!! and the extra chess pieces as well. As I stated in another thread, the box that holds all the chess pieces just sold on ebay for over $600!!!! So there is definatly a demand for them ^_^ If you make them, they will come :D

[luningning]

hehehe. i saw that one too. ^_^ was thinking of bidding but heck, $600 is more than i make in a month!

[mizushimo]

CLAMP no Kiseki must continue somehow! You guys could just put the book plus chess pieces in a clamshell plastic case to save on shelf space.

[adichappo]

I hate to sound like kid stuck on a long car trip but *in my best young kid whiney voice* "Have they decided yet??" ;-)

[Arcademan]

I hate to sound like kid stuck on a long car trip but *in my best young kid whiney voice* "Have they decided yet??" ;-)

Yes you do sound like one.

With that said..."Have they decided yet?!!"

Borders' info site has the next CLAMP no kiseki coming out December 2006. I really hope that's not true :(

[luningning]

volume 7? in December 2006? C'mmon guys... are you serious? i mean, if thats the case, other versions of clamp no kiseki will be finished by then.... This is so sad....

[kokorochan]

Maybe beacuse in japan or spain are fans who bought that version, in us i think more want download it the scans or bought the japanese version for a more cheap price, they dont understand any but pay less money for it. Btw i have the spanish version (the next month will be the no. 11) and i dont think CnK will have all those problems in u.s :(

[PeterAhlstrom]

As far as we're concerned here in the office, it's already October now, so if they were coming out in December, that would be great! Unfortunately, it's not true, and no decision has yet been made when volume 7 actually will come.

Sorry.

[luningning]

how long before the license will expire? (or does it have a time limit?) I can wait as long as it will be published.

[Liannah]

Sorry to pester...but can you give us even an estimate. I have invested a lot of money in the CLAMP no Kiseki books so far, and I really want the whole set. If it doesn't look like you'll release them anytime soon, I'd be better off just buying the Japanese ones.

EDIT: No offense intended, however, I'm pretty upset at the delay.

[qshoe1989]

Sorry to pester...but can you give us even an estimate. I have invested a lot of money in the CLAMP no Kiseki books so far, and I really want the whole set. If it doesn't look like you'll release them anytime soon, I'd be better off just buying the Japanese ones.

EDIT: No offense intended, however, I'm pretty upset at the delay.

Agreed. Some of us have put in a bunch of cash. And what use is half the chess piece collection? And some of the best artbooks are still out there. It's unproffesional not to follow through with the set. Again no offense intended, I'm a crazy tokyopop fan.

[PeterAhlstrom]

I have said all there is to say. When there is anything else to say, it will be said. :)

[kawaii-clamp-fan]

I was told that this is the best place to post this suggestion - I have been keeping an eye on the progress of Clamp no Kiseki on this section of the forum, and I read that the high costs of producing it are a problem. I am an avid Clamp fan, and live in the UK, so have imported the first 6 volumes from the US and look forward greatly to the remaining six.

I was in France recently, and notived that over there, they pack their CnK volumes in clear blister packaging. The artbook and chess pieces for each volume are simply held inside a thin clear plastic covering. This must be cheaper than the japanese-style boxes, as each volume only costs around $18 over there. I just wondered if this would be of any use to you, and if it would solve the cost problem :)

I hope that you find away around the costs issue, and can release the rest of the set ^-^

[Liannah]

I'm tired of not getting responses...When I email Tokyopop, they say to "Check the messageboards" or "This sounds like a good question for the messageboards, why don't you go post it there?" but there is no real information here and I've rarely gotten any timely responses. I'm just completely frustrated after dishing out a couple hundred dollars for the CLAMP no Kiseki set so far without having any indictation when (IF) they're going to continue the publication. The more time that passes decreases my chances of being able to import the Japanese editions. I would just like a clear answer, considering this has been in limbo for quite a while now.

EDIT: Thanks, kawaii-clamp-fan (http://messageboard.tokyopop.com/forums/member.php?u=5122) for mentioning that they were available in France. I can read French so it's no big deal to me if the second half of my CLAMP no Kiseki collection is in French. But at least the French stores still have stock of the item.

[PeterAhlstrom]

Liannah, I have already explained many times.

There is no answer. We do not know when volume 7+ will come out. As soon as we know, we will tell you.

Any further questions on this topic (except a reasonable update query post at a rate of one per month) will be moved to the Deleted Threads section where no one can see them. Thanks!

[frostyakf]

This is not a question about the next release of Clamp no Kiseki. This is an observation to hopefully be passed on to the Tokyopop marketing team.

Many Borders Stores(and Walden Books, their affiliate) place the Clamp no Kiseki product behind the counter where it is not accessible to the consumer. This is a death sentence, and likely has a lot to do with poor sales.

Please, if you have any method of doing this, speak with the Borders representatives at the Corporate level and find a way to make sure that this product is reasonably displayed in the stores. My local Borders has an Endcap devoted to Clamp, and displays the Clamp no Kiseki boxes there.

The Clamp no Kiseki product will not sell from behind the cash registers. Stores only put it back there because they are too lazy or unwilling to make space for it out on the sales floor, where it belongs. Hopefully, now that you're aware of the issue, you can fight for the product that represents the Clamp group we all know and love.

~The Lone Wolf

[adichappo]

all the Borders and Waldenbooks in my area - about 6 stores - and even the indy comic shops that carry them have Clamp no Kiseki in with the rest of the manga. I don't think I've ever seen it behind the counter. In fact the first few issues were displayed right in front of the counter to get more notice. If they are behind the counter, it must be a store policy, not a franchize thing.

[Black Maru]

At my waldenbooks when clamp no kiseki was first released, a whole pillar was dedicated to displaying it. I think the biggest issue thats snagging the releases is the cost of production. If you can not lower the price; I think the wisest thing would to produce a smaller amount for the same price. People are willing and ready to pay the 30. Although it would sell more if you lowered the price to 20 bucks a pop. But as long as I can complete my collection in English I am good. I would have to buy the entire thing over again if in Japanese if ya'll stopped. I can't do half a series in one language and the rest in another. (its a personal quirk)

[luningning]

I would have to buy the entire thing over again if in Japanese if ya'll stopped. I can't do half a series in one language and the rest in another. (its a personal quirk)

I totally agree with you there!

[mizushimo]

I keep getting emails from rightstuf saying that it's coming out October 30th O.o. I have no idea what that's about.

[adichappo]

But as long as I can complete my collection in English I am good. I would have to buy the entire thing over again if in Japanese if ya'll stopped. I can't do half a series in one language and the rest in another. (its a personal quirk)

I'm the same way. It's all or nothing...which is why I've been eyeing ebay...sometimes they have the entire set in Japanese for pretty good price. But I'll bide me time....for now ;)

[Arcademan]

The big problem from a collector's viewpoint is that TOKYOPOP says they will probably change the way the sets and the magazine are released in the future, most likely to reduce the cost and help with distribution however to have half a set in one format and the other in a different format...that's the part I'm not thrilled about. For now all we can do is play the waiting game and wait for updates.

[Black Maru]

....its been a while, any updates? or is it still a 'we can neither confirm nor deny' type of thing?

[PeterAhlstrom]

I can confirm that it still hasn't been decided when or how to release volume 7. I know that the packaging change that was being looked into turned out not to be as cost-effective as was hoped (in order to lower the retail price as well). Whether or not that particular packaging option will be used anyway is still up in the air. I hope it won't be too many more months before there is something useful to report, but while news could literally come anytime, that has been the situation for quite a few months already so I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Liannah]

I hate to say this, but the longer you wait to release it, I think fewer people will buy it. Most of my friends are really big fans of CLAMP and were worried that you would never finish releasing the issues and just bought overseas copies. Most of the people who bought the CLAMP no kiseki were big CLAMP fans, and of the ones I know of, a lot have gone to other languages to ensure that they would be able to complete their collection. It's hard to invest $200 in half a chess set.

I was estatic when you announced you were releasing it, and would have gladly paid whatever price you asked for them. I've bought pretty much every CLAMP manga in at least one language. When you announced you were postphoning the release of the second half of the collection I was severely disappointed in Tokyopop, since you have always done a relatively good job of editing and releasing manga. I am more disappointed now though, that you seem not to be able to give any answers and the project is stuck in indefinate limbo.

The only reason I even come to this site anymore is to check for updates on CLAMP no kiseki. I hope that you do something with it soon.

[YamPuff]

I definitely don't mean this as a dig at Tokyopop, but I really think it's the price that's the problem. Many manga purchasers are in their teens and they have to weigh if they want to buy about 3 manga vs. one Clamp no Kiseki. The books are very thin for the price, even though they come with the 3 chess pieces.
That being said, I know the price is high because of various things such as the licensing. I think if they were around $20-$22 in stores, that'd be about right.
ALSO, I do buy a lot of my manga online, and the fact that Kiseki isn't available on Amazon.com really REALLY hurts it! (especially since you can't get the discount, since it isn't available)
It would be sweet if there were a way to buy JUST the chess set (which a lot of people have shown interest in), but I doubt Clamp's publishing group would allow that...
You basically said everything I have ever had against the series. I'm not buying it. No 32 pages of anything is worth thirty dollars. And its not on amazon.com, so yeah...

[Janna]

I have a question about the CLAMP no Kiseki series, when will you be continueing this? Why this much delay? It's kinda sad... I even had to order the chessboard in Germany since i'm not sure you'll be publishing it and the Japanese version is out of print + super expensive!

[adichappo]

if you read through this thread you'll find out why there is such a delay in releasing the rest of the series. as for when it will be released again...well....we're all still waiting for that answer.

[MomoxD]

You basically said everything I have ever had against the series. I'm not buying it. No 32 pages of anything is worth thirty dollars. And its not on amazon.com, so yeah...

Actually, they do have it on Amazon.com. It took long enough but they have it there now. I wish the prices were lower too but I guess if you shop around, it's pretty easy to get it for $20 or lower sometimes. The only one that I've bought for $30 was the first one because I was too excited to wait ._.;; The second one was for $20 something. The third was $10. Still searching for a discount price for the 4th (and 6th), but the 5th, I got for $7.99...but yea >< they are expensive.

[Janna]

I'm very happy I bought my Kiseki's for only €18 each! If they were €30, like the $30 they originally are, I wouldn't have bought them. I'm a big CLAMP fan but I don't think my sallery is nor my parents are!

It would be a big shame if the other Kiseki's won't be released. Then I have to buy the German or French versions, since my French is terrible and I don't like to read German (even though I can) I decided to buy Tokyopop's version, even though it's much more expensive.

I really hope we'll get some good news soon, anyway I will buy the other 6 volumes! No matter what!

[Arcademan]

It's been almost 2 months since the last update, Peter. Any news on the fate of the remaining 6 books? Inquiring minds want to know and mind you, I have people yelling at ME in other forums about this, not that I have any control over what's going on :D

[PeterAhlstrom]

I wish there were a status update to give, but unfortunately there's not. =/

[Liannah]

Honestly, it's probably pointless to hold out for the remaining volumes to be released.

There's never any news except that they can't give us any news. I've lost a lot of faith in Tokyopop. While I've loved a lot of their previous releases and have always been previously satisfied, this CLAMP no kiseki dilemma has made me largely disappointed in Tokyopop. I understand the fact that things had to be done in order to re-package/re-market CLAMP no kiseki, that doesn't bother me. However, the fact that you stopped the series half-way through production and then refuse to elaborate, even vaguely on when or even if we can ever expect it to continue has me upset. All things considered, I've spent around $200 on half a chess set.

[midorihebi]

However, the fact that you stopped the series half-way through production and then refuse to elaborate, even vaguely on when or even if we can ever expect it to continue has me upset. All things considered, I've spent around $200 on half a chess set.

We're not refusing to elaborate. We simply do not have any updates on it. If we did, we'd let you know.

[PeterAhlstrom]

Hey, I'm not refusing anything. There simply isn't anything to say. As soon as there is something to say, I will do so with all willingness.

Volume 7 is currently scheduled for 4/7/2050 in our database. This is just a placeholder date of course until they figure out what to do. When they have figured it out, they will move the date up to sometime before I'm 70 years old.

[Nanase]

....its been a while, any updates? or is it still a 'we can neither confirm nor deny' type of thing?
In Mexico are now abailable. I've seen books 6, 7, and 8 in many libaries. Hope you can find them where you live. I'm gonna buy them this weekend :D. I can tell you that 6 is about Chobits, and 7 about Magic Knight Rayearth. I'm not sure about this last, because there's one that already is dedicated to MKR. (#4 or 5.)

[Arcademan]

In Mexico are now abailable. I've seen books 6, 7, and 8 in many libaries. Hope you can find them where you live. I'm gonna buy them this weekend :D. I can tell you that 6 is about Chobits, and 7 about Magic Knight Rayearth. I'm not sure about this last, because there's one that already is dedicated to MKR. (#4 or 5.)

Here are the books by issue:

#1 - Cardcaptor Sakura
#2 - Cardcaptor Sakura, Clover, The One I Love
#3 - Tokyo Babylon
#4 - Magic Knight Rayearth, Angelic Layer
#5 - CLAMP School Detectives, Duklyon: CLAMP School Defenders, Man of Many Faces
#6 - RG Veda (last TOKYOPOP release)
#7 - Chobits, Wish, Suki
#8 - X/1999
#9 - X/1999, Miyuki-chan in Wonderland, Shirahime-Syo: Snow Goddess Tales
#10- XXXHOLiC, Legal Drug
#11- Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle, The Legend of Chun Hyang
#12- Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle, Kobato

Might as well list the chess pieces too.The pawns are the white and black Mokonas from TRC and XXXHOLiC:
#1 - Queen Sakura Kinomoto (Cardcaptor Sakura) 2 pawns
#2 - Queen Tomoyo Daidouji (Cardcaptor Sakura) Bishop Kimihiro Watanuki(XXXHOLiC) pawn
#3 - Bishop Subaru Sumeragi (Tokyo Babylon) 2 pawns
#4 - Rook Misaki Suzuhara (Angelic Layer) Bishop Seishiro Sakurazuka (Tokyo Babylon) pawn
#5 - Rook Suu (Clover) Knight Nokoru Imonoyama (CLAMP School Detectives) pawn
#6 - Knight Hikaru Shidou (Magic Knight Rayearth) Rook Ashura (RG Veda) pawn
#7 - Rook Chii (Chobits) Knight Akira Ijyuin (CLAMP School Detectives) pawn
#8 - King Kamui Shirou (X/1999) 2 pawns
#9 - King Fuuma Monou (X/1999) Bishop Miyuki (Miyuki-chan in Wonderland) pawn
#10- Bishop Fai (Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle) Queen Yuuko Ichihara (XXXHOLiC) pawn
#11- Bishop Kohaku (Wish) Knight Kurogane (Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle) pawn
#12- King Syaoran (Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle) 2 pawns

[Chuplayer]

Well, I just got volume 6. That inspired me to check back and see what's going on with the rest of the series. I'm still sad that there's no news :(

[tehlilone]

Is there a chance that they could publish a small number in the format/price they originally had (maybe even only through the website) then figuring out what to do with the rest because I'd really hate having only half of them. Or would that cost the company too much money (much more than losing manga fans and loyal customers). Then again fans and customers are easily replaced nowadays since manga has gotten popular, right? Not being cynical but the reliability and reputation of tokyopop has been going downhill this past year and it's saddening. This isn't coming from just one person either as you can see with some replies you've gotten. I'm not blaming any of this on employees such as our link to the company, peter, but really the people up there making decisions aren't setting good examples or standards. They commited to publishing these art books but failed to uphold to their promises. This makes me wonder just how safe it is to continue purchasing from tokyopop any longer. I think that's why I've slowly started to buy more manga from other publishers not even bothering with newer titles from tokyopop.

[PeterAhlstrom]

I appreciate how you express your frustration.

[YamPuff]

Volume 7 is currently scheduled for 4/7/2050 in our database. This is just a placeholder date of course until they figure out what to do. When they have figured it out, they will move the date up to sometime before I'm 70 years old.
Wow, 2050. I can wait. :p

[maria100]

2050? Cool I'll put it in my diary.
Tokyopop need to think about the fans out there who will only buy a series which is complete.
I am very interested in buying the series, as a big CLAMP supporter. However, I will not start to buy the series until I am sure that they will be finished. Do you not think there will be other people out there interested in the series but with the same viewpoint?
I hope that Tokyopop sort this out soon and thanks to Peter and everyone else for keeping us updated.

[Black Maru]

What?? That is SO not fair. Its out that far in Spanish???? I don't understand the logic here. There is no excuse for this really. REALLY, no excuse. First it was the god-awful red robofish that SO killed any aesthetic value of the tokyopop books. Do you realize I cry inside whenever I look at Fruits Basket, which is the worst colors you could ever put on a book together?!? The reason people haven't been buying Tokyopop, and as a manga collector with over 2,000 manga in her collection I can safely say, that the quality of your products as well as your empty promises kill fans. Its not just the "sokora refugees" titles, whose cover alone screams "run, run now", but series that are just empty in of themselves. Plainly said, it seems that tokyopop is just lisencing titles that don't have good story lines. Your release dates were at one time, something to be proud of, to brag about. Now, I am lucky to get something within 6 months!!! Saiyuki, Srgt. Frog, Kare Kano, Fruits Basket!!! Where is the love for these?? How long will you make me wait??? I find my shelves quickly being filled by Del-Rey, Viz, Go!Comi, and even CMX. I manage to find money with a 2 month release schedule. I do have 2 months do come up with it. I am not afraid to dish out for a good book. Give me something worth buying and I'll buy it. But this Clamp no Kiseki thing. It kills me. Really it does. I will just have to take my money elsewhere for it. You lost me. And believe me, when I say that I am not alone in this. God Tokyopop, shape the hell up. Do something, because despite at how pissed I am at you, I don't want one of the founders of the American Manga industry to tank, so fix it fast.

[MomoxD]

2050? I'm amused. xD I'll be 61 years old... XDD -sighs- Oh well. I'll still be waiting. :] (Unless I go to Hong Kong or China before then xD. I'm not going to buy the Japanese version since I can't read it. xD)

[Arcademan]

2050? I'm amused. xD I'll be 61 years old... XDD -sighs- Oh well. I'll still be waiting. :] (Unless I go to Hong Kong or China before then xD. I'm not going to buy the Japanese version since I can't read it. xD)

If I got the series in Japanese for a real cheap price, I'd get it but I still hope out for collecting the remaining 6 English issues left. It's no longer about the chess pieces for me since I already have all of them ;)

[YamPuff]

Rub it in their faces whydoncha.

[Arcademan]

Rub it in their faces whydoncha.

No...THIS would be rubbing it into everyone's faces:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/Arcademan/CLAMP/chesspieces.jpg

[YamPuff]

*sits and cries in a corner*

This makes me glad I never bought into the series. XD

[Arcademan]

Bought the entire set for $90 from eBay last year and now have them spread out on a glass chessboard in my collection room.

[YamPuff]

That must look pretty awesome. How big are they? 'Bout regular chess piece size?

[MomoxD]

TRC!Syaoran~! ;_; That picture is painful to look at. XD

When I get a credit card...! I can't order from ebay, my parents wouldn't let me... -sighs- One more year...! >< My friend has Kero and Suppi. I so wish I had my own credit card now. ;_;

I can read Chinese to a certain degree so I wouldn't mind the Chinese version for the books, but I can't read Japanese period. I'd perfer the English though.

Ah well, I'm collecting the CLAMP in 3-D Land sets for now. It has CCS!Syaoran <33, Tomoyo and Sakura xD Expensive though... >_o

[Liannah]

Is there a chance that they could publish a small number in the format/price they originally had (maybe even only through the website) then figuring out what to do with the rest because I'd really hate having only half of them. Or would that cost the company too much money (much more than losing manga fans and loyal customers). Then again fans and customers are easily replaced nowadays since manga has gotten popular, right? Not being cynical but the reliability and reputation of tokyopop has been going downhill this past year and it's saddening. This isn't coming from just one person either as you can see with some replies you've gotten. I'm not blaming any of this on employees such as our link to the company, peter, but really the people up there making decisions aren't setting good examples or standards. They commited to publishing these art books but failed to uphold to their promises. This makes me wonder just how safe it is to continue purchasing from tokyopop any longer. I think that's why I've slowly started to buy more manga from other publishers not even bothering with newer titles from tokyopop.

And this is why, although I used to buy almost exculsively Tokyopop titles, I purchase more from other publishers (Especially Del Rey - Tusbasa and xxxHolic) or the original Japanese manga. I'm not saying that I blame the people who work for Tokyopop, but the company itself has disappointed me. I'm somewhat sad by that, because Tokyopop was always my favourite publisher and the one I used to recommed to friends.

[StarborneDrifterMerl]

Well, this sure is a nice informative, though very sad thread. >.< I finally dug up my old account on here because I wanted to find any info I could about CLAMP no Kiseki, seeing as I also have the first 6 sets, sitting nicely on my bookshelf. I don't care if the boxes they came in were changed or gone, so long as I can get the books and the chess pieces. I don't have the room to keep the boxes intact OR broken down anyway, so they've gone the way of the dinosaur in my house.

I too love all things CLAMP though I am saddly lacking on some of the key series... I used to subsist on meager earnings in the form of allowance when I first got into manga and anime, and so I had to try and spread my money accordingly, and for other things too. I have a job now (though it's a student job so still not much money) but I have so many titles I collect or want to collect now, I'm hardly current on any of them that are still being published! Heck, I can't even really get Kodocha *cringes at the shortened name* anymore because it's outta print... and I have the first like, 5 books. I don't buy manga strictly from Tokyopop, I've always bought whatever from whomever so long as the stories intrested me. So, while I'm upset at Tokyopop for all the troubles with CLAMP no Kiseki 7+, I don't really hate them. I hope they come to a decision soon and release the rest, I'll still be around and looking. I look everytime I walk into Borders or surf the various online anime shops I order from on occasion. I want 7, but I can and will be patient if I need to be so.

[Liannah]

Well, this sure is a nice informative, though very sad thread. >.< I finally dug up my old account on here because I wanted to find any info I could about CLAMP no Kiseki, seeing as I also have the first 6 sets, sitting nicely on my bookshelf. I don't care if the boxes they came in were changed or gone, so long as I can get the books and the chess pieces. I don't have the room to keep the boxes intact OR broken down anyway, so they've gone the way of the dinosaur in my house.

I too love all things CLAMP though I am saddly lacking on some of the key series... I used to subsist on meager earnings in the form of allowance when I first got into manga and anime, and so I had to try and spread my money accordingly, and for other things too. I have a job now (though it's a student job so still not much money) but I have so many titles I collect or want to collect now, I'm hardly current on any of them that are still being published! Heck, I can't even really get Kodocha *cringes at the shortened name* anymore because it's outta print... and I have the first like, 5 books. I don't buy manga strictly from Tokyopop, I've always bought whatever from whomever so long as the stories intrested me. So, while I'm upset at Tokyopop for all the troubles with CLAMP no Kiseki 7+, I don't really hate them. I hope they come to a decision soon and release the rest, I'll still be around and looking. I look everytime I walk into Borders or surf the various online anime shops I order from on occasion. I want 7, but I can and will be patient if I need to be so.

If you're looking for out of print titles, try Amazon's marketplace. That's how I bought the last 3 volumes of Clover (I put off buying them a little too long ^^;;). I've had extremely good experiences with it.

[StarborneDrifterMerl]

Heh... I'll hafta try that again.. last time I think I looked for some outta print manga on amazon they were being sold for rather outrageous prices >.<' lol

[adichappo]

If you're looking for out of print titles, try Amazon's marketplace. That's how I bought the last 3 volumes of Clover (I put off buying them a little too long ^^;;). I've had extremely good experiences with it.

be very careful buying on Amazon's marketplace. I also bought the last 3 vol of Clover from a merchant called "Books mavens". The descriptions were false. They said there was "a small tear on the dust cover" on all three. None of them came with any dust cover and vol 2 was missing the first 3 pages of story. I have no problems with Amazon itself...but at least this one of it's merchants was very disappointing.

[Liannah]

be very careful buying on Amazon's marketplace. I also bought the last 3 vol of Clover from a merchant called "Books mavens". The descriptions were false. They said there was "a small tear on the dust cover" on all three. None of them came with any dust cover and vol 2 was missing the first 3 pages of story. I have no problems with Amazon itself...but at least this one of it's merchants was very disappointing.

I've never personally had a problem, but apperently you can take up false descriptions with Amazon.

[chibikodo]

A suggestion for future releases of Clamp no Kiseki?

Sell the books and the chess pieces separately. Collectors of the pieces would be able to get the pieces they want, collectors of the books will get what they want as well.

It would also require less cardboad to package and sell the chesspieces alone.. possibly making it more cost efficient?

In any case, I would like to have the remaining books but can't bring myself to buy damaged boxes.. so maybe if there were no boxes it'd be better?

[MomoxD]

A suggestion for future releases of Clamp no Kiseki?

Sell the books and the chess pieces separately. Collectors of the pieces would be able to get the pieces they want, collectors of the books will get what they want as well.

It would also require less cardboad to package and sell the chesspieces alone.. possibly making it more cost efficient?

In any case, I would like to have the remaining books but can't bring myself to buy damaged boxes.. so maybe if there were no boxes it'd be better?

There is actually a store that I go to that sells the pieces and the books separately. ._.;;

[MrDisco]

wow. i came here hoping to find some good news, but the last few pages of this thread really dashed those hopes.

TP, sorry but I gotta say, you guys suck. count me in as another person who has spent a considerable amount collecting v1-6 only to be left hanging. Not having any type of status update is just downright rude to your customers. If a premier title such as this can't see the light of day, why should I trust you with any other manga license?

Colour me another disgruntled TP customer :mad:

[AnimeDood]

Well, another month as passed, but the question yet remains.
http://www.nekomancer.com/images/CnKQuestion.jpg
Tokyopop doesn't happen to have any late christmas presents to give to their loyal fans, do they? Probably not, but their's no harm in asking (or wishful thinking), is there? Oh, well. It's 2007 now. Just 43 more years to wait, right?

[tehlilone]

Oh, well. It's 2007 now. Just 43 more years to wait, right? We can only hope ^__^ or learn to read in another language...

[MomoxD]

Yay! 43 more years! XD That gives me a LOT of time to save up money. As long as they promise in the end that they'll have it out. XDD And hey! I'll be 61..! I would be able to open my 401 K (without penalities) that I hope to get when I start working XDD.

[PeterAhlstrom]

Okay, since you asked so nicely...

You would probably say it's cruel of me to tease you like this, but CLAMP no Kiseki volume 7+ are currently back on the schedule every other month starting in June 2007. There are no other details at this time and I wouldn't be surprised if this changed yet again--so please don't hold your breath--but there you go.

[AnimeDood]

That's not cruel at all:o On the contrary, you have saved us from 42 years and six months of waiting. Thank you, peterahlstrom.

[Arcademan]

At least it's a start. Hopefully the remaining issues and chess pieces will be released :)

[MrDisco]

It is a start, but I won't hold my breath until i see the box at my local comic shop :|

[PeterAhlstrom]

I have a smidgen of more news. The price will be $19.99
There will be some kind of packaging change.I don't know the details on that yet though. We'll see.

But anyway, looks like this really is happening.

[StarborneDrifterMerl]

Yay! ^_^ Price/packaging change or not, I'm glad to hear there's hopeful news for us fans! ^_^

[MomoxD]

=O Oh my gosh, I love you Peter...! >< And it's coming out at a VERY good time! :D Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!

[Arcademan]

It's...about...DAMN...time!!!

[MomoxD]

It's...about...DAMN...time!!!

You said it! XDD

-runs off to tell the rest of the CLAMP worshippers :D-

[adichappo]

I have a smidgen of more news. The price will be $19.99
There will be some kind of packaging change.I don't know the details on that yet though. We'll see.

But anyway, looks like this really is happening.

:D Yippee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh happy day!!!
Thank you for the news...of course I will still be checking this thread for more info and perhaps a more solid confirmation...but it is a step in the right direction.
ummm...i know you said you didn't have details so I will wait for answers, but I'll just ask anyway, will the packaging change change the size of the actual book itself (I only ask since I bought a magazine holder from japan to hold the entire series and hope that the 2nd half of the series will still fit in it :) )? Also, is there any glimmer of chance that the extra kero/suppie pieces and/or chess piece box might be released in the states - so that those of us that want to complete the enitre set don't have to spend obcsene amounts of $ to get it off ebay from japan? :) :D

[PeterAhlstrom]

Don't know.

[luningning]

4 months to go.....

[chibikodo]

Well with the packaging change and potential for the rest to actually come out, might as well just buy beaten up boxes then (and no need to worry about what to do with six additional boxes that could most probably hold cereal) and then hope to get the last six books.

[adichappo]

2 months and counting....that is if it's still on schedual...yes? *asking hopfully*

[PeterAhlstrom]

Oops, looks like Stephanie edited your post instead of replying. Easy mistake. ;)

[Arcademan]

It's...about...DAMN...time!!!

Quoted for Truth :D

Counting the days until it comes out.

[midorihebi]

Oops, looks like Stephanie edited your post instead of replying. Easy mistake. ;)

Yeah. Big Oops. I keep on hitting "edit" instead of "quote." -.-;

Anyway! As far as I know, yes. I looked over volume 7 about a month ago, and we send the books to the printers about 2-3 months in advance.

[YamPuff]

Yeah. Big Oops. I keep on hitting "edit" instead of "quote." -.-;
Ah, so I'm not the only one. http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/YamPuff/Puff-tans/Emotes/animesweatdrop.gif

[adichappo]

Yeah. Big Oops. I keep on hitting "edit" instead of "quote." -.-;

Anyway! As far as I know, yes. I looked over volume 7 about a month ago, and we send the books to the printers about 2-3 months in advance.
Wheeee!!!! Ya Hoo!!!!!!! *does the dance of joy* :D

[StarborneDrifterMerl]

Yays! ^_^

[poppycock]

Wow, reading through this entire thread has been very enlightening.
I'm a huge Clamp fan, but I've always passed on buying the Kisekis because of
the price. I'm too young to have a steady job yet, so I have to save up my
allowance to support my anime/manga hobbies.

I'd just like to thank you guys for being so persistent about the series status, and
Tokyopop too for releasing them in such a nice format. The next time I go to borders, I"ll be sure to buy the first one if the have it in stock. I also can't wait for the new releases. Thank you very much TP! :D

[luningning]

one month to go!!! ^_^

[adichappo]

one month to go!!! ^_^
Yippeee!!!!! :D
So can you guys at TP give us a specific release date yet so I know when I should start stalking Borders? and any chace you might be able to give us some details on the new packaging so we know what to look for? Please and thank you :)

[PeterAhlstrom]

Some kind of plastic. That's basically all I know.

The listing says June 12th, if you look at that section of the website. ;)

[Arcademan]

Some kind of plastic. That's basically all I know.

The listing says June 12th, if you look at that section of the website. ;)

You know we'll be counting the days before this comes out. Those too lazy to check it out:
Volume 7 - Product Info
MSRP: $19.99
Pages: 32
ISBN: 1-59532-611-1
EAN: 978-1-59532-611-9
Item #: TPBK-32611
Date: 06/12/2007

Genre:
- Fantasy
- Romance CLAMP: the world-famous manga collective known for such fantastical works as Cardcaptor Sakura, Chobits and CLAMP School Paranormal Investigators. To honor CLAMP's 15th anniversary, CLAMP no Kiseki: The Ultimate Collection features full-color pages, exclusive material, 6 pages of new, never-before-seen manga, and limited-edition collectible figures! This volume features an in-depth look at Chobits, Wish and Suki. Bonus chess pieces include: Chi(Chobits), Mokona-Modoki, Akira Ijyuin(Man of Many Faces).

[PeterAhlstrom]

Sorry guys, I'm sorry to report that everything has been pushed back a month. The printer we were planning on using didn't work out, so we went back to the old press and this delayed our proofs process. So vol. 7 will now come in July instead of June, with the remainder of the volumes following every two months.

I've seen the proofs though, and everything looks good.

[Arcademan]

Sorry guys, I'm sorry to report that everything has been pushed back a month. The printer we were planning on using didn't work out, so we went back to the old press and this delayed our proofs process. So vol. 7 will now come in July instead of June, with the remainder of the volumes following every two months.

I've seen the proofs though, and everything looks good.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

You filthy apes!!! Damn you!!! Damn you all to hell!!!

:p

<sorry...Planet of the Apes flashback>

[YamPuff]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

You filthy apes!!! Damn you!!! Damn you all to hell!!!
:eek:

You maik Tokyopop cry.

[TheBohemian]

:eek:

You maik Tokyopop cry.

From laughing so hard? :p

[luningning]

noooooo....... >_<

[MomoxD]

D:

Aw.

Oh well. I guess it'll give me more time to save up for CLAMP in 3-D Land set 3. I want Subaru.

[adichappo]

meh...we've waited this long...what the heck is one more month.

*foof*

D:

Aw.

Oh well. I guess it'll give me more time to save up for CLAMP in 3-D Land set 3. I want Subaru.
Subaru is in set 3?!?!?!? oooooooooooooooooooooooooo
can't wait ^_^

[MomoxD]

^ Same here. I can't wait. Not only will Subaru be in it, but Watanuki and Ashura too. ♥

I had told myself I wouldn't get another set since they're so expensive, but it's SUBARU. XD You know? I know I'll cave in too if I see a Seishirou figure too. D: I need money. >_>

[Asrafrate]

My apologies for not reading this entire thread. It's quite late for me and I've got the attention span of a gnat.

I was wondering if there had been any further news about whether or not TokyoPop would be releasing the chessboard/magazine file/poster at all? Also the chessbox and special Kero/Supi pieces?

I have all of it in the Japanese version, but am also collecting the TokyoPop version (because I ashamedly cannot read Japanese!) and would like to be able to get all the extras and the pieces from the TokyoPop set as my "in use" set ^_^;

Yeah, it's weird, but I actually want to be able to use this set! So pretty!

EDIT: just in addition, since I am doing a bit of information gathering... does anyone have the original chessboard/magazine file that was released for the Japanese edition?

I was able to get a copy when it was first released:

http://anime.asgard.gen.nz/gallery/displayimage.php?album=8&pos=23

But one thing I have noticed while trying to find more information is that pink poster (in the picture) isn't featured with the magazine file (it originally came IN the magazine file.) Does anyone know if this was a limited release? Whether or not they only released a certain number? Any info about it would be great :)

[adichappo]

EDIT: just in addition, since I am doing a bit of information gathering... does anyone have the original chessboard/magazine file that was released for the Japanese edition?

I was able to get a copy when it was first released:

http://anime.asgard.gen.nz/gallery/displayimage.php?album=8&pos=23

But one thing I have noticed while trying to find more information is that pink poster (in the picture) isn't featured with the magazine file (it originally came IN the magazine file.) Does anyone know if this was a limited release? Whether or not they only released a certain number? Any info about it would be great :)

I bought the the chess board/file box from a seller on ebay from Japan. It came with the pink poster (which is also the cover of vol 1 with Sakura and Tomoyo, yes?). I have seen them sold with and without the poster - more without than with actually. I don't know if it was a limited release thing, but I would assume so.

Also, as far as anyone on here can tell, the chess board, file box, chess set collector box and extra Kero and Suppie pieces - all of which I bought from Japan - are only available from Japan and there are no plans to release them in the US or anywhere else that I know of. Of course that could all change, but chances are slim I would guess.

[PeterAhlstrom]

Umm... it's been delayed another month now, to August.

But we're working on volume 9 already...

[MomoxD]

D:

May I ask, why? >_>

I'm just curious.

[Arcademan]

Umm... it's been delayed another month now, to August.

But we're working on volume 9 already...

I'm now back to "I'll believe it when I see it!" status :mad:

[azurekite]

I am disappointed that Tokyopop is making mistakes in the books. I feel like my 30 bucks was wasted on stuff they take no care to double check. =_= it was ultimately depressing.

[utenatenjo80]

Delayed til August?!!!! :( Aw, come one u guys. My other chest pieces are collecting dust due to the delay. I was so waiting June to roll around just so I'd start again. Pooo u guys. I've been trying to find even the japanese versions on ebay and had some to no luck. And the ones I did find where double the price I had paid for the first 6 volumes. Oh, well. Hopefully I'll see it in August? :confused:

[PeterAhlstrom]

I am disappointed that Tokyopop is making mistakes in the books. I feel like my 30 bucks was wasted on stuff they take no care to double check. =_= it was ultimately depressing.
Please explain. What mistakes are you talking about?

Everything is at least quintuple-checked.

[Arcademan]

Please explain. What mistakes are you talking about?

Everything is at least quintuple-checked.

I saw a place that had translated some of the CLAMP no kiseki books before the TOKYOPOP version came out and as far as I could tell, there were no mistakes. Some translations were handled differently but that's to be expected. It didn't take away from what I found to be an enjoyable and informative series.

[adichappo]

Please explain. What mistakes are you talking about?

Everything is at least quintuple-checked.
The only mistake...typo really... that I have noticed was in vol 6, pg 16 in the second row on the far right Portrait 003 is titled "Lday Kendappa". Since the font is quite large I did notice it straight away when I first bought it. I know no one is perfect, but like I said, that one stood out.

[PeterAhlstrom]

Well, that certainly is embarrassing. I'll have to see if there are any old printouts I can dig up to try to figure out how that slipped through. But I'm not confident in my chances, since it did come out so long ago. =\

[Eluriasea]

I'm now back to "I'll believe it when I see it!" status :mad:
I have been sorely disappointed with having to wait this long for the release of the other sets. I'm sorry to say that I have been personally boycotting TokyoPop titles because of this matter. There has been a couple of new title that I would have picked up but I've just set them back on the shelf. Whenever I actually get Clamp no Kiseki # 7 in hand, I'll start buying TokyoPop manga again but not until then.

As a side note, if anyone is looking for a good deal on volume 1-6 head over to DeepDiscount. They are having a mega sale.

[utenatenjo80]

I have been sorely disappointed with having to wait this long for the release of the other sets. I'm sorry to say that I have been personally boycotting TokyoPop titles because of this matter. There has been a couple of new title that I would have picked up but I've just set them back on the shelf. Whenever I actually get Clamp no Kiseki # 7 in hand, I'll start buying TokyoPop manga again but not until then.

As a side note, if anyone is looking for a good deal on volume 1-6 head over to DeepDiscount. They are having a mega sale.


I'm not boycotting Tokyopop titles because of the delay. I will say though how disappointed I am that it's taking so long for the last half to come out. I remember being told by an employee the whole deal for the delay last summer at Anime Expo and how it was to be released hopefully later that year. Now its the middle of 07 and Anime Expo is just around the corner. So technically a year delay. I know there were issues with copyright, yadda, yadda, yadda. But it gets upseting when my chess set sits on my stereo, incomplete. I actually was going through some old Expo swag (yay swag! :p ), and found a Tokyopop postcard with the "supposed" release dates for the entire set. Its funny to notice how the last couple volumes had a release date of earlier this year. I know things change and the like, but I really hope Tokyopop brings #7 out in August like they said they would. If they don't and it delays again, I really don't know if I can take that (considering my hunt for the other volumes in japanese has turned out to be less the fruitfull). :(

[Ninjaboy]

can anyone help me ? can i know wheather the clamp no kiseki vol 7 is limited edition ?

i from malaysia , i hv pre oder the clamp no kiseki from Kinokuniya book shop few days ago , and today they call me and said that their supplier was out of stock , and they told me that clamp no kiseki vol 7 is limited edition , so they not going to re oder again , can TP do some thing about this ? coz that is the only place i can get clamp no kiseki in malaysia .
can settle the issue wth Kinokuniya book shop ?

[PeterAhlstrom]

Tell Kinokuniya that it got delayed until August, so that's why their supplier is out of stock—their supplier hasn't gotten any copies themselves yet.

There won't be reprints, but there will be a lot of copies printed of the first printing.

[adichappo]

will the books be limited to Borders book stores and indy book shops (not including on-line sales) like they were before? Or will Barens and Nobles and other major chains be carrying them as well here in the States?

[PeterAhlstrom]

CLAMP no Kiseki will be available at any bookstore or comic store (or other establishment) that wants to order it from us.

[Ninjaboy]

so thats mean the vol 7 will release in august and the following after 2 month ?

[PeterAhlstrom]

Yes, that's what it means.

[chibiyumari]

Finally....:rolleyes:

[adichappo]

just gotta double check...#7 still on to be released next month?

[PeterAhlstrom]

Yes. August.

[adichappo]

ok I hate to be a pain in the butt, but what is the release date in Aug? I tried to look, but couldn't find it on the website (which, if I may say, is alot harder to navigate around in now...but that's for another forum...^_^)

[Arcademan]

ok I hate to be a pain in the butt, but what is the release date in Aug? I tried to look, but couldn't find it on the website (which, if I may say, is alot harder to navigate around in now...but that's for another forum...^_^)

Found it easily:
Manga Schedule: August 2007 (http://www.tokyopop.com/shop/schedule?month=8&year=2007)

CLAMP No kiseki #7 available August 7, 2007

CLAMP: the world-famous manga collective known for such fantastical works as Cardcaptor Sakura, Chobits and CLAMP School Paranormal Investigators. To honor CLAMP's 15th anniversary, CLAMP no Kiseki: The Ultimate Collection features full-color pages, exclusive material, 6 pages of new, never-before-seen manga, and limited-edition collectible figures! This volume features an in-depth look at Chobits, Wish and Suki. Bonus chess pieces include: Chi(Chobits), Mokona-Modoki, Akira Ijyuin(Man of Many Faces).

And FYI, Book #8 (X/1999) will be available October 9, 2007.

[MomoxD]

August 9th? Drats. I'll be in Tokyo. I'll have to wait till I come back from Japan to get it. >< Oh well. I'm finally glad it's coming out~ :D

I can't wait until volume 12. I want Syaoran~

[adichappo]

And FYI, Book #8 (X/1999) will be available October 9, 2007.
Squeee!!! Just in time for my birthday. :D

[StarborneDrifterMerl]

Wow... here I was just thinking bout 'what happened?' cause all the sites I order from kept sayin 'out of stock' or 'not yet published' etc etc... lol Now I know! Now back to the waiting for the chance to snag them! *waits* ^_^

[PeterAhlstrom]

Volume 7 has been printed.

[EDIT: I thought volume 8 was printed too, but apparently the printer had big scheduling problems...Umm...]

[Arcademan]

CLAMP no kiseki #7 already pre-ordered :D

[adichappo]

just pre-ordered mine today too at Borders....^_^

[luningning]

at last!!! This is finally out and at $19.99 too! ^_^

[RyoSato]

This has been delayed again I see, as volume 7 is late by a few months. Any news on when you're actually going to release them?

[Arcademan]

#7 this Tuesday. Try going back and reading the posts here.

[PeterAhlstrom]

Volume 7 has already shipped to stores. If you don't see it in a store and want to buy it there, ask them to order it in. ISBN: 978-1-59532-611-9

[Arcademan]

Volume 7 has already shipped to stores. If you don't see it in a store and want to buy it there, ask them to order it in. ISBN: 978-1-59532-611-9
Or do it like me...threaten the store manager!!! :eek:

Just kidding. Pre-ordered it right through old TOKYOPOP's shop site :)

[Arcademan]

This is what I get for ordering it through here:

Thank you for ordering from Right Stuf International - Your
Anime Superstore!

Unfortunately we are unable to ship your complete order due to the
unforeseen demand for the item listed below, or your item is not
yet released:

Quant. Item Description Amount
------ -------------------- ---------------------------------------- ----------
1 MM1595326111 CLAMP no Kiseki Graphic Novel $ 19.99

We receive shipments of items from our suppliers every day, and your
items are on order with the manufacturer. We hope to be able to fill
your order promptly.

Should you need additional assistance with your order, or if you
would like to cancel your order, you may contact us by e-mail at
info@rightstuf.com or call customer service at 1-800-338-6827 or
515-986-1028, Mon-Fri 8AM - 5PM CST.
Answers to common customer questions may also be found on our web
site at:

http://www.rightstuf.com/customer/customer.shtml

Thank you for your order!

Right Stuf International
Customer Service, info@rightstuf.com

Never again. Never liked the site...won't use it again.

[PeterAhlstrom]

I'm a little confused myself. Our database still lists Aug 7th as the "Release Date," but Aug 14th is listed as the "On-Sale Date." It says it shipped from the printer on July 17th.

[Arcademan]

I'm a little confused myself. Our database still lists Aug 7th as the "Release Date," but Aug 14th is listed as the "On-Sale Date." It says it shipped from the printer on July 17th.
I found it in a different place online...available NOW and at a better price. Placed the order for it there instead and had it confirmed :)

EDIT: Ordered canceled from RightStuf. They informed me that the book has not arrived at this time.

[PeterAhlstrom]

Argh. I just found out some bad news...though we sent volume 8 to the printers over a month ago, they had scheduling problems and we have still not gotten a final proof to send to CLAMP for approval. So volume 8 might end up getting pushed back a month!!! Volume 9 is supposed to still be on schedule though which would mean volume 8 comes out in November and volume 9 comes out in December...

This isn't definite yet, but unless I say otherwise, assume that's what's going to happen.

(Seriously, I cannot wait to be done with all 12 volumes. This is such an editing nightmare.):mad:

[Arcademan]

So...should come over and slap some TP people around for the delays or to the printers? Perhaps a trip to Japan and slapping CLAMP around? I'll be more than happy to do it for the greater good :p

[adichappo]

So...should come over and slap some TP people around for the delays or to the printers? Perhaps a trip to Japan and slapping CLAMP around? I'll be more than happy to do it for the greater good :p

I think I would be more inclined to slap someone around at TP then CLAMP themselves...after all the Japan releases all went off with out a hitch...

I picked mine up yestarday from Hammergirl. Although i had pre-ordered it from Borders they said in their computers that the release date was not until Aug 30th. oh well....at least I got it somewhere. About the new packaging...you're gonna hate me for saying this Mr. Ahlstrom, but I really don't like it. It's like they tried to squish the book into a plastic container that was one size too small...the corners were bent and the book was warped because it didn't fit. One has to be very carful in cutting the packaging open so as not to cause any more damage to the book (i'm a collector - I take great care of books like these). I know I've said this before I'm sure I'm in the minority in this but I prefer to old package with the nice box and all - it was much more attractive and I didn't mind spending the extra $ for it. Not that there is anything that can be done about it now and I do understand that you are trying to make this available to a wider consumer group...I just thought I'd state my opinion on it.

[midorihebi]

I think I would be more inclined to slap someone around at TP then CLAMP themselves...after all the Japan releases all went off with out a hitch...

I'd prefer it if you didn't slap around someone at TP. It's really not our fault. Like Peter said, the printer had some scheduling problems, so we haven't been able to get a final copy of the proof to send to CLAMP.

[PeterAhlstrom]

adichappo, thanks for your report. I hope the packaging fits better with the next volume.

[Arcademan]

I should get mine on Saturday or Monday from Overstock.com. We'll see if there's a similar problem with my copy.

[Arcademan]

OKay, I got mine today and mine appeared similar to adichappo's unfortunately. Simple fix is to simply make the packaging about half an inch wider in all directions. That way it will allow for space plus a little spare to cut the casing to get to the book.

[utenatenjo80]

Why is this so hard to get? I pre-ordered it a week before publishing date and never got a phone call from where I got it. I tried ordering it from Borders yesterday and just when I thought they had it, the ended up pulling me xxxHolic vol. 7 instead of Kiseki!!!! The guy who helped me tried to find it since their computer said they had 1 in stock. But after 20 minutes it could not be found and they had to re-order it. WHY CAN"T I HAVE MINE NOW!!!!!

[Arcademan]

Overstock.com (http://www.overstock.com/Books-Movies-Music-Games/Clamp-No-Kiseki-vol-7/1970553/product.html) has the 7th issue in stock NOW for $12.91 + $2.95 s&h for an entire order. They also have 1,2,5 and 6 available for under $20 each.

[PeterAhlstrom]

It's too late to fix the packaging for volume 8, but they're going to work on a new prototype for volume 9's packaging.

[Arcademan]

It's too late to fix the packaging for volume 8, but they're going to work on a new prototype for volume 9's packaging.
Thank you. Mind you, I don't mind the packaging it's in...quite the contrary, it's excellent. Hard and sturdy. Make it a tad bigger so that the magazine isn't so stuffed inside and it'd be perfect :)

[utenatenjo80]

It's too late to fix the packaging for volume 8, but they're going to work on a new prototype for volume 9's packaging.


Yeah, I just finally recieved my copy yesterday and the package posed quite a problem. Not the fact as mentioned earlier where the book doesn't quite fit. But the insane carefulness on how to get the book and chess pieces out of the package without ruining anything. Luckily I managed to get all out without damages, but it took awhile to figure out where to make the cut so it would open on its own after that. :eek:

[Kuroiku]

It's too late to fix the packaging for volume 8, but they're going to work on a new prototype for volume 9's packaging.

Oh, I am so glad. How come you guys don't see the final result? Because if you did then:

1. you wouldn't get pelted by complaints
2. no headache for you
3. you can be the bringer of good news rather than bad
4. you can fix the mistake before you start losing customers

I am also very careful with my books, all of them are bookstore perfect condition, and I'm very disappointed that it was so squished. It made me want to cry. But I am so happy that you guys have finally released the rest of the series. I big pat on the back for you Peter for having to bring bad news most of the time and being able to handle all of us. I'd give you a medal if I could. ;)

[luningning]

ahhh. I just got my copy the 7th volume. It was pretty much squished and i had to carefully use an exacto knife to pry it open. So, we're gonna have 3 different packaging for clamp no kiseki?

[armitage135]

So volume 8 might end up getting pushed back a month!!! Volume 9 is supposed to still be on schedule though which would mean volume 8 comes out in November and volume 9 comes out in December...

This isn't definite yet, but unless I say otherwise, assume that's what's going to happen.

(Seriously, I cannot wait to be done with all 12 volumes. This is such an editing nightmare.):mad:


Is this the case cause the website still says it comes out on october 9th and thats not that far away.

[PeterAhlstrom]

It ended up shipping to the distributor on Sept. 20th, so it might arrive to stores more or less on time.

[Arcademan]

It ended up shipping to the distributor on Sept. 20th, so it might arrive to stores more or less on time.

Nice! Thanks for the update, Peter :)

[adichappo]

It ended up shipping to the distributor on Sept. 20th, so it might arrive to stores more or less on time.
Yay!!...I'll look for it next week. :D

[adichappo]

Just got the e-mail from Hammergirl saying they got vol 8 in. will be picking mine up tomorrow ^_^ YAY!!!!!

[PeterAhlstrom]

Good good!

Volume 9 went to press, so it should also come out on time in December--with the fixed, slightly larger packaging.

[adichappo]

Nice one...thanks Peter. Just think...3 more vols to go and we won't bug you anymore ^_^

[PeterAhlstrom]

I will be so happy when we're done with this... Working on volume 11 now.

[Arcademan]

Some of us appreciate the hard work you're doing getting the remaining issues out, Peter. Thank You :)

[luningning]

just bought volume 8. I cant wait for 9. ^_^ i hope you'll also be releasing the chess box and board. Please. ^_^

[utenatenjo80]

Hey, since you guys are giving away the chessboard for the contest, does that mean you might be releasing in the near future?

[PeterAhlstrom]

I doubt it. They're probably just giving away the few that we had. Last I heard, we were not going to get mass copies of the board and the 2 bonus pieces.

[Arcademan]

The board and 2 bonus pieces are extremely rare. There's a few willing to part with the chessboard however not with the the 2 chess pieces. Those who do want some big $$$ for them.

[utenatenjo80]

I doubt it. They're probably just giving away the few that we had. Last I heard, we were not going to get mass copies of the board and the 2 bonus pieces.

Ahhhhhhh, that sucks cause I really don't wanna go on ebay and pay massive amounts of money just to have one. :( Last I checked ebay, one chessboard was going for 150 bucks. :mad:

[Arcademan]

Too high. Most of the ones with the chess board go around $40-$50, minus the bonus chess pieces, booksleeve and poster, natch.

[utenatenjo80]

But it is ebay and I always notice the bidding gets really high on the last couple minutes.

[Arcademan]

But it is ebay and I always notice the bidding gets really high on the last couple minutes.

Nah, really?!! :p

The price I quoted in the last post was a BUY IT NOW price. Any price above $50 for the board = too much...unless you want it that bad!!! Personally, I can BUILD a better one ;)

[adichappo]

I was able to get the board, box for the books and bonus poster for $40 (inc shipping) and the bonus chess pieces + holding box for the whole set for $110 (inc shipping) on ebay. I got pretty good discounts on the issues I buy here, so I was able to rationalize spending the $ for the extra bits. Tho I have seen them go for less (after I bought mine). You just have to find them at the right time.

I doubt it. They're probably just giving away the few that we had.
As in a contest on the main site? Would it be posted here if it happens?

[Arcademan]

As in a contest on the main site? Would it be posted here if it happens?
There's a contest currently going on for the CLAMP no kiseki chessboards on the main site. Here's the link to all the details (http://www.tokyopop.com/Clamp-TOKYOPOP/contest/978868.html)

[utenatenjo80]

I was able to get the board, box for the books and bonus poster for $40 (inc shipping) and the bonus chess pieces + holding box for the whole set for $110 (inc shipping) on ebay. I got pretty good discounts on the issues I buy here, so I was able to rationalize spending the $ for the extra bits. Tho I have seen them go for less (after I bought mine). You just have to find them at the right time.


As in a contest on the main site? Would it be posted here if it happens?

Wow, at least you managed to find it all. But 110 is still a little expensive. According the rules for the contest, the box and chessboard is only worth 15 bucks. Too bad ebay doesn't think so..... :(