School Uniform vs Individuality?

[jia_feong]

I go to a public school, no uniform. But I like uniforms.


My Reasoning: My friend was complaining to me about the fact that her high school is making the seniors have a blue background for the yearbook. She didn't like it because (she says) it eliminates individuality. And coming to the topic of school uniforms, she says that elimiates indivd. also. I remember reading an entry in her livejournal saying how you dress makes your personality, and more individual. When I disagreed, she just said "WEll, it just doesn't apply to you. but it does for most people."

That really pi$$Ed me off!! (I'll stop complaining about my friend now...)

IF everyone dresses the same, and yet a person sticks out, then that person is truly an individual because s/he doesn't need the clothes, the walk/talk.


Your opinion?
(Personally, from this thread, I really want to understand what people see as "being an individual".)

[Vicious]

I too love Uniforms. I just love them a lot! I don't care about individuality! Well, wait... I do care about it... but I just like how the uniforms look too. ^_^

[happy_sakura]

i dont mind them now but at school i HATED mine. but that was because it was horrible. dark green (but not even a nice shade of green) and grey. very attractive.

[fongmingyun]

I stand by your friend - I come from a school with a strict dress code (logo on your shirt is bigger than a fist? You get detention tomorrow!). To be honest, it's stupid. When you think about it - you have the right to like uniforms, and if there's no dress code, you still have the right to wear a uniform - it just won't be "uniform" in the adjective sense where everyone is wearing one. However, if you are all forced to wear uniforms, your friend loses her right to express herself through fashion. I consider fashion a freedom of speech - therefore, so long as the item worn is not promoting overly violent or sexual behavior that would surpass social norms, I think it's better not to have a dress code.

[shadowmose]

IF everyone dresses the same, and yet a person sticks out, then that person is truly an individual because s/he doesn't need the clothes, the walk/talk.


Well not necessarily, because people will bend the rules when wearing the uniforms. I wore uniforms when I went to my public middle school and I didn't wear the white polo shirt but just a regular t-shirt. Everyone was doing something a little different with their clothes. Uniforms wern't a big deal for me because I'm lazy and it make it easy to get ready for school.

[MephistoWaltz]

I'd rather have a dress code than uniforms. The reason I buy my clothes is because I like to wear them and express myself through them. I don't want to wear ugly khaki pants and a black, white, or navy blue polo type shirt. That's how most of the uniforms are down here. But now I don't really care cause I'm out of school.

[Angel of Chaos]

I would of like to of had uniforms. I love them, they make everyone proper looking. Some people should have them cause personally, I don't like the whole saggin' bit. It's gross and I, as, well as others, would like to see something other that someone's behind. Plus, your going to school to learn not give a fashion show. And another thing, there are so many people that won't say a word to you because they judge you by the way you look; if everyone looked the same then there's a better chance of meeting someone who cool not just cool looking.

[MephistoWaltz]

That's why we have a dress code at school. I don't like seeing sag either. Even if we wore the same clothes someone with a big ego is still doing to put you down. If everything were the same we'd be communist. It is human nature to pick on others, the only thing you can do is tell that person to go screw themselves after they give you a comment about your clothes. The problem isn't clothes, it's people.

[jia_feong]

People's whose ego is elated by clothes....

[Cowboychamploo44]

I prefer uniforms....why....so i don't have to worry about what to wear to school anymore ^_^

[shadowmose]

People's whose ego is elated by clothes....

Uniforms came to my school in order to stop the problems of fighting, etc... The thing is the uniforms didn't stop or hinder anyones ego,anger or whatever issues they had. Clothes can't change a person's feelings that much.
The problem isn't clothes, it's people.

[odinmm]

:) Um we have a dress code at my school, now the collage I want to go to is different, but that is a different story. At my school the only rules are:
1. No promoting drugs, alcohol, and such
2. No spaghetti strap shirts
3. Can’t show belly button
4. No short shorts
5. No showing underwear

That is about it for my school, besides that it is vary lenient. Now for gym, it can be just about anything, you just cant wear sandals nor wear jeans and dress cloths, and #1, and #3, and #5 from the school rules.


EDIT: so i like that there are rules, but i like to show off with nice cloths and stuff. i dont like looking like every one else in the building, to me that would seem boring. ^_^

[Kurama's fire miko]

I prefer uniforms....why....so i don't have to worry about what to wear to school anymore ^_^
bingo same here

[Angel of Chaos]

Even though there is a "dress code" it still doesn't work. We need teachers to go by example because most of the time they are worst than the students. I agree with CafeSociety. You have to change people first to demand discipline(sp?)

[Nekochii]

Why to people think that they can only show off their individuality by what style of clothing they wear? Kids should realize that brand name clothes don't make who they are.

[chocopocko]

i would vote for neither. i really dont care for uniforms or the dress code. uniforms tend to be ugly, thats why i dont like them. if they were cute (like the ones in my avatar) i would so love them. dress codes i dont like because of the enforcement. they are not to strict about it at my school but i hate how they dont catch some obvious people (spaghetti strap wearers) but others go free. plus, if the want to look like sluts its up to them. most people wouldnt wear those sorts of things.

[Cura]

I don't really like having uniforms at all. I think the people in schools should have a right as to what they want to wear. Sure, I can understand that if the girls are showing to much skin, or if the guys are sagging their pants too low, that they give us some restrictions that our clothes can't be Spaghetti Strap shirts and no promoting Alchohol, Drugs, or whatever. I can handle all that. But they shouldn't go and punish everyone else, having to make everyone wear dress code. Like CafeSociety said, "The problem isn't clothes, it's people." That's exactly right. What they should really be paying attention to, is teaching us, and having effective teaching. That's what the staff/teachers/principals are there for. Not to judge what we wear. Everyone likes to be different, and show who they are. Anyway, that's just me.

[MephistoWaltz]

I don't really like having uniforms at all. I think the people in schools should have a right as to what they want to wear. Sure, I can understand that if the girls are showing to much skin, or if the guys are sagging their pants too low, that they give us some restrictions that our clothes can't be Spaghetti Strap shirts and no promoting Alchohol, Drugs, or whatever. I can handle all that. But they shouldn't go and punish everyone else, having to make everyone wear dress code. Like CafeSociety said, "The problem isn't clothes, it's people." That's exactly right. What they should really be paying attention to, is teaching us, and having effective teaching. That's what the staff/teachers/principals are there for. Not to judge what we wear. Everyone likes to be different, and show who they are. Anyway, that's just me.
YEAH!!

[Angel of Chaos]

Cheers for CafeSociety! And what's with keeping the tags on the clothes? It doesn't tell me anything except that they weren't smart enough to take them off. So I do it for them. :)

[jia_feong]

I stand by your friend - I come from a school with a strict dress code (logo on your shirt is bigger than a fist? You get detention tomorrow!)... if you are all forced to wear uniforms, your friend loses her right to express herself through fashion. I consider fashion a freedom of speech - therefore, so long as the item worn is not promoting overly violent or sexual behavior that would surpass social norms, I think it's better not to have a dress code.


:( don't mention my friend...she's trying to be "original" through materialistic things, instead of just being herself.

but at the same time, I understand the idea of choosing your own clothes because it's what you like.

[Aratos]

Well personally, I'm all in favour of uniforms. Apart from anything else, it means you don't get folk from poor families being bullied becasue they wear cast-offs. Not to mention it shows they're all aprt of the school. You wouldn't say that folk in the army should be allowed to wear whatever they like while on duty now, would you?

Oh, and clothing is definately an important part of someones personality. Individuality? pssh. What it is is that your choice of clothing often reflects your personality. Sometimes more than you'd think. Allthough that's appearance as a whole generally. Look at me: I wear combat jackets and let my hair grow to the point it's all scruffy and covers most of my face. There's a whole confidence issue hidden in there somewhere no doubt (and who'd blame me? Bullied all the way through school, by the senior management staff at that. Took me months to recover to the point I could actually have a conversation with someone I didn't know.)

[sacari]

It really depends on what uniform the school has. When we lived in California one of the school choices was to go to the school right around the corner from where we would live. They had uniforms. When we went there we got to see the uniforms. They were pretty much turquoise pants/skirt and navy shirts. It looked terrible. I ended up going to the private german school about 40 mins away.

But if the uniforms look good, or atleast normal. Why not? You have plenty of time to express your individuality through clothes when you're out with your friends.

-edited for a spelling mistake-

[Honey]

I hate the idea of school uniforms. I do feel it takes away some of your personality, but I also hate skirts...of course, I dye my hair more that the normal human being should... so I stand out a little more anyways...but still. I dont see how dressing the same could not take away indivuality.

Also, people don't have 'school pride' in my school. they do whatever they can to not be a part. I don't think, with as many people as we have in my school, and the majority of them thinking that they are sooo bad ass, that it would be incrediably easy to inforce a uniform rule. They can't even enforce the dress code...let alone uniforms

[Nekochii]

It really depends on what uniform the school has.
Dose it really matter what type of uniforms they have. It's not like anybody's going to make fun of you for wearing it when the seven hundred kids who go to school with you are wearing it as well. I say that a uniform brings out your personality and individuality more because people around you are going to pay more attention to you and not what your wearing.

[sacari]

Dose it really matter what type of uniforms they have.

If the uniform is incredibly hideous, yes. I do say it matters.

[Vicious]

...I also like uniforms where girls wear those skirts. *blush* Hehe!! >.<

But still! I agree with what Aratos and Sacari said. ^_^ I really prefer uniforms.

Though, I'm not in high school, so I guess it doesn't really matter for me anymore.

[avion]

I liked school uniforms because I didn’t have to worry what I was going to wear the next day or how I was going to match this with that. However, I think that each grade should have a different uniform (better looking then the lower grades you know what I mean?) oh, and that if there is going to be a uniform policy that they should make all the student wear it, not just those who sign a waver and can wear regular clothes like my old school did. Because that just made the kids pick on those who were wearing uniforms.

[ZeKarmiSama]

I believe in uniforms. I like things to be same-y same-y, dunno if it's some kind of Asian compulsive need for homogenizing things or what, but I like uniforms. If you think you have no individuality due to wearing the same clothes as the person next to you, there's something severely flawed about your self-image... Even if I am not wearing Kingdom Hearts necklaces and anime-shirts, I doubt I'll suddenly become a clone of the next girl. What comes out of my mouth defines me pretty well! "Man, I knitted five feet of green fuzzy-wuzzy scarf while watching a documentary about Hell and then one about Lucifer on the History Channel" is one of those things that probably only comes out of my mouth. It's not like I think before I dress. *grabs shirt, grabs pants, puts them on... the end* And besides, there's still the weekends for wearing whatever you want. The only thing I'm slightly bothered by with uniforms is skirts. @_@ I'm not very fond of skirts even though actual school uniform skirts aren't anywhere in the vicinity of short like in anime XD

The blasted teachers at my school don't even bother to uphold the blasted dress code. It's so disturbing to have your head facing someone's butt-crack when walking upstairs! (I need to kill whoever started showing their butt-crack as fashoinable. I can't comphrehend how something that poop comes out of can be sexy! Especially on people who never seem to notice they're morbidly obese...EXCERCISE BEFORE I AM COMPELLED TO STAB YOU TO DEATH WITH A METAL RULER!) I think my school's dress code is pointless, there's still people running around dressed like madmen and sluts.

That's another reason I support uniforms. I'm rather disgusted by what's in-style at the moment...

[sacari]

It's so disturbing to have your head facing someone's butt-crack when walking upstairs! (I need to kill whoever started showing their butt-crack as fashoinable. I can't comphrehend how something that poop comes out of can be sexy! Especially on people who never seem to notice they're morbidly obese...EXCERCISE BEFORE I AM COMPELLED TO STAB YOU TO DEATH WITH A METAL RULER)

Amen to that.

Even though the school I went to (but not anymore...high school next year! :eek:) was super strict with the dress code, you'd still have people running around showing their buttcracks behind the teachers backs. The teachers could sniff out sleeves less than 3 fingers wide like trained dogs, but they couldn't see the buttcracks for some reason. Even though you're not allowed to wear anything that somehow let's you see underwear (including bra straps). One of the guys even got away with mooning the entire class repeatedly while the teacher was at the front of the class. The teacher didn't notice and I had to sit right behind him *my eyes. they burn*

[Angel of Chaos]

I think that if the students and the school administration could agree on a uniform, then that would allow personality and such to be shown. And at the same time be appropriate for school. Of course that will never happen because teachers truly don't take our opinions seriously.

[ZeKarmiSama]

I think that if the students and the school administration could agree on a uniform, then that would allow personality and such to be shown. And at the same time be appropriate for school. Of course that will never happen because teachers truly don't take our opinions seriously.

I don't even think students amongst themselves would ever agree on a uniform, much less get the school administration to agree with one.

[Angel of Chaos]

I don't even think they would even be able to get through the first step which is making an appointment with the adminstrators. That's why I said none of it would happen.

[MephistoWaltz]

Yep. No matter how hard we try people can never agree on anything.

[chocopocko]

i wouldnt really care if we had to wea uniforms if they were :

1.cute. i mean not wonderful, but not horrible looking.
2. i was allowed to dye my hair and wear my usual 3 necklaces, 4 brecelets, and two earrings, and perhaps a couple of anklets in summer. i mean, i love jewelery, id probably get kicked out for " excessive accersorizing" or something.

if i could do that, id be fine with uniforms. its just the extra rules that bug me.

[ZeKarmiSama]

Yeah, students probably wouldn't even make an appointment. Schools are full of apathetic people who will do nothing but complain. Like in my anime club, no one seems to love it completely, but I won as Club President completely unopposed because no one else wanted to do any work... you'd think someone would at least make a shot in the dark against me when my opening speech was "I AM A DICTATOR!" (and subsequent rambling about world domination) and my vice president speech from last semester was "I cosplay therefore I am cool!"

And agreeing is so hard... there's too many types of people to agree on one thing.



Heh. @_@ My money spent on anime stuff would probably be wasted with jewelry restriction too... *shakes fist* Death Note is not a Satanic heavy metal band! But I'd live... I s'pose.

[Honey]

i wouldnt really care if we had to wea uniforms if they were :

1.cute. i mean not wonderful, but not horrible looking.
2. i was allowed to dye my hair and wear my usual 3 necklaces, 4 brecelets, and two earrings, and perhaps a couple of anklets in summer. i mean, i love jewelery, id probably get kicked out for " excessive accersorizing" or something.

if i could do that, id be fine with uniforms. its just the extra rules that bug me.

thats what would suck. i'm not saying every school says you can't dye your hair...but my friend's old school (it was catholic, but still) suspended her for a week because she dyed her hair...she only got purple lowlights...and she was forced to either dye over them, or leave the school...(which is incredibly lame)

There is other cases though...where schools let the people who go there design the school uniforms (happened to my cousin's school), so i wouldnt totally hate it if that happened

[Kyattsuai]

I'm not really sure on my opinion. I went to a school where there was a uniform, and restrictions on hair dye and jewlery(sp) (Highlights or lowlights up to max two shades difference from your natural hair colour, no visible necklaces exept for religious ones, no large bracelets, and only two small piercings per ear for girls, no cartilage) but then I managed to test in to my current school, with no dress code whatsoever. Pretty much. (My closest friend there has blonde highlights on black hair, along with many other people I know, and I know one girl who died her hair red and then black, and two people who got red highlights) I seriously didn't mind uniforms, it prevented me from having to pick out what I wanted to wear. No dress codes are nice too, but it's kinda a little stressful to have to look like you're actually normal, not someone who wears orange-and-white striped shirts with weird frills at the sleeves, your sense of fashion gets twisted if you get cut off from the normal world(I blame YTV for introducing me to Inuyasha) and have a uniform. I don't really mind either way, as long as you don't have to wear the whole formal thing every day. I'm not sure how far I can push the rules at my current school for gothic lolita, haircuts or hair dye, though. I want to get an Uryuu Ishida/Tomonori Nakaura/Sasuke mix haircut, a blue wash through my hair and then get blue highlights and wear loli, but I'm afraid they'll kick me out. -_-" That's the only problem about private school.

[fongmingyun]

Unless you make your own clothes, there's always going to be only a certain amount of unoriginality to your outfit. Think about it - most anime fans probably have those black anime shirts or something of the sort.

I don't care how "cute" a uniform is. What's cute for you is probably not cute for me. Cute for me is a vintage t-shirt over a pair of jeans with rips at the knees, not what you think of as a uniform. I don't like uniforms because I personally don't like wearing skirts. I'm lazy and don't like to sit with my legs crossed - I'm also considerably active (especially when literally running from one class to another).

I like a moderate dress code that leaves room for choice - since, hey, choice is important to me. Just don't let your choices offend other people (like pants hanging way below underwear or shirts that say mean/racial things). Let clothes dictate cliques and stuff - I feel that's part of life, and you've got to experiece it to get the kind of feeling no matter how mean or nice people are. People actually tend to forget (or even ignore) that I'm an anime fan because - apparently - I dress like a prep. And I like it that way because it's helped shape what my personality is like and helps me judge people less about their clothing. Actually, I probably am a prep.

[DeathJr]

I go to a public school, no uniform. But I like uniforms.


My Reasoning: My friend was complaining to me about the fact that her high school is making the seniors have a blue background for the yearbook. She didn't like it because (she says) it eliminates individuality. And coming to the topic of school uniforms, she says that elimiates indivd. also. I remember reading an entry in her livejournal saying how you dress makes your personality, and more individual. When I disagreed, she just said "WEll, it just doesn't apply to you. but it does for most people."

That really pi$$Ed me off!! (I'll stop complaining about my friend now...)

IF everyone dresses the same, and yet a person sticks out, then that person is truly an individual because s/he doesn't need the clothes, the walk/talk.


Your opinion?
(Personally, from this thread, I really want to understand what people see as "being an individual".)
the opinion that the way you dress shows everone how much of an individual you are is an old one. the fact of the matter is that the way you dress shows everyone how much you dress alike and how how much a group conforms to one look(goth, emo, "urban" i think that title is bull **** anddoesnt make sense, skater, so on and so forth)

[jhudora93]

I dont wear a uniform so I would wanna have one, but I do like to wear whatever* I want to..so I dont really care..
*=not everything, though

[KaYoKitten]

I prefer to have school uniforms. While clothes does present a more..."open" view of how you view what you look like, it's better that people DON'T get an overall "view" of you before they even give you the chance. I've moved so much, and I've gone to...three schools that had uniforms, of varying wavelengths of leniency on how much you change that uniform to suit yourself.

The first school was Ruffner Junior High, in Virginia. This school was EXTREMELY strict on how you dressed--it wasn't just how you dressed, it was a security code. Sixth graders (like myself then) had to wear a pale blue (within a certain range of blueness based on a scale) dress shirt or polo.

The polo could ONLY be worn with a jumper, shorts, or skirt and the dress shirt HAD to be long sleeved and worn with pants or a skirt. If you had a dress shirt on, you had to wear a tie (girls had the option of a cross-tie, but most people opted for the normal-lookin' kind anyway). The jumpers, skirts, shorts, and pants HAD to be dark blue, also within a certain range of blueness based on a scale. Your shoes had to be black. No exceptions. If there was anything, and I mean ANYTHING not black on the shoe, they made you color it with Sharpie.

No logos were allowed, also with no exceptions (that included the infamous Nike swish thingie). Socks had to be black, within the same parameters as the shoes. You were limited to a single pair of earrings, one bracelet on each wrist, and one ring on either hand, and that was only if you were a girl. No "outlandish" makeup was allowed, and people pushed that envelope to the max every day. You were not allowed to dye your hair. ANY color. Even another natural one.

The reason? Security at Ruffner was strict--really strict. There were four floors to the school, and the student's shirts were the color codes. Sixth graders had the second floor, seventh graders (in yellow) had the third, and eighth (in white) on the fourth. The bottom floor had lunch rooms and gym and the other stuff like the art and music rooms. The time schedules worked like clockwork, and there was security on every floor. If you were out of quadrant, for any reason, you immediately got a demerit unless you had a DARN good reason. You could also have gotten a demerit for: not wearing the uniform properly, not closing your locker, and carrying unauthorized bags (we had to have clear, see-thru bags). Three demerits meant detention. X.X

The other schools were both here in Wichita, Kansas and were much more lax. Curtis had navy blue polo shirts and khaki pants/skirt. You couldn't have more than the five standard pockets on the pants, and a single pocket on the shirt. No outlandish colors in hair, makeup, or jewelry and you were set to go.

The last school was so much more lax...they even gave you choices on what colors of polo shirts and pants/skirts you could wear. XD lol

I've also gone to another school where you could almost literally get away with anything and I often wondered why people seemed to blend in with each other when it didn't happen at the other schools. And then it hit me: People fight for self expression through very different means when they are more restricted. You pay more attention to a person's FACE than how they're dressed. And I liked that.

XP Just a thought.

[Verdekurama]

When I was in school I would have perfered uniforms, people broke the dress code constiantly, by wearing skimpy clothing. The rules were never inforced.

[YamPuff]

My school had very lax rules about the uniform, but if it hadn't been grey and yucky I might have enjoyed it. If the only form of self-expression you can find is your clothing, than you're a pretty sad case.

It eliminates the 'cool squad' dress code thing by forcing everyone to dress the same. The richer kids dress more or less like the poorer without fancy labels to boast of.

And if the uniform is as cute as the ones found in manga...you're durn lucky. ;)

[Jacku]

I'm leaning towards uniforms but I really don't care.
I go to a public school that requires uniforms (it's like that for all schools where I live) and it's alright. Just wear a white top and black or khaki bottoms (skirts or pants). After some time goes by you can just stop wearing uniform altogether.
Pretty... Relaxed I guess.

[kakashi]

Uniforms because I like them...

[Ichigosmiles]

I really really love school uniforms... well at least most of the time. But I would definently have students wear a uniform so people would be judged less on their appearance.:(

[Zenriek]

I am against uniforms... Mostly because they suck. x.X

But a lot of people say that it promotes self-confidence, and maybe that is so, but so does regular clothing. I'd be proud to walk to school in the kind of clothes I want to wear.

[Axel1]

having school uniforms is like saying that everyone on this site has to have the same avatar and siggy:(

[Aratos]

hey, it works for PLN (http://www.paranoia-live.net/forums), doesn't it? We have to choose from a list. So do the folk at forumplanet until they earn the right to upload a custom (usually at ~200 posts)

[pancakes621]

i come england where uniforms are a must from pre-school to laundry maid and in my opinion uniforms are the worst thing on the face of the earth. i think that at school and work we should wear what is comfortable for us not wearing a really tight tie and a horrible navy blue sweater in the summer all the time.

but if you like uniforms sorry if this offended you. i just really hate them.

in my school if your top botton isnt done up on your shirt you get an after school detention and that is after the head had stopped shouting at you. does anyone else think that is rather harsh?

[YamPuff]

Well,it is harsh, but it keeps you on your toes and makes sure everyone is presentable.

[Im on fire]

My friends who go to uniform'd schools tell me that it's still very possible to express individuality through accessories and other small details, like layering their shirts, jewelry, unqiue eye makeup, pins, cute colorful/printed leggings/socks, shoes/shoelaces, jackets, purses, patches, etc. I pretty much agree with them on that and have seen it demonstraited numerous times--you can still have a cute and funky sense of style by building on your uniform, you just have to use your imagination and creativity.

[zetsui101]

i really have no preference. of course, I go to a school that requires a uniform, but after a while, it becomes no big deal. my first yr at CCA I was excited because I thought I'd wear uniforms like the ones I saw in anime, but the uniforms I have are nowhere close. thank goodness for that...
individuality is easily expressed through the uniforms at my school. so far the student body has had only one banning of a clothing item: flip-flops (u know, like the sandal). although, the uniforms I wear look like dollarstore/grocery staff uniform. so, when I go to a grocery store, at least one person asks me where a certain item is. it's kinda funny, but if it happens more than once in teh same day, it gets old.

[MetalMouth]

It doesn't entirely eliminate individuality. You don't spend all of your time in school.

I wish I had uniforms at my school. I think it would help prevent a lot of bullying that goes on based on the clothes that kids wear. That way, they can't judge based on appearance, only personality.

[Aratos]

I wish I had uniforms at my school. I think it would help prevent a lot of bullying that goes on based on the clothes that kids wear. That way, they can't judge based on appearance, only personality.

Nervous tics, hairstyle, makeup, shoes...

[renrenren]

i went to both private with uniforms & public with no uniforms. bullying exists in both. in fact, when you say uniforms, it's mostly asian countries that have it. & these asian countries have the highest death rate due to suicide from bulleying.

by the way, it's true, i remember a girl notorious for being a bully/b***h who tried to pick on me about my shoes which @ the time was very cute. anyway, she ended up being bullyed by me. lol

[Freakazoid]

Uniforms are okay,but only as a last resort to solve a problem
because you can't force people to wear a uniform just
because you think it will be better. there has to be a legitimate
reason or things could get worse for the school. That's what I think.

[YamPuff]

The way I see it, does it hurt anyone? No. Maybe it annoys a few egos but doesn't cause actual harm. And it can do a bit of good as well, so I'm pretty much all fo uniforms. Mainly because if you let kids nowadays wear whatever they want it gets out of control. And maybe it helps kids focus less on their image. Maybe.

[Aratos]

in fact, when you say uniforms, it's mostly asian countries that have it.

You calling blighty asian?

[renrenren]

You calling blighty asian?

lol no... i know they have a lot of schools with uniforms in europe too. america's not really america with uniforms you know?

[zetsui101]

It doesn't entirely eliminate individuality. You don't spend all of your time in school.

I wish I had uniforms at my school. I think it would help prevent a lot of bullying that goes on based on the clothes that kids wear. That way, they can't judge based on appearance, only personality.
Uniforms have been a part of my school since it was founded a few years ago, and the dress code is pretty laxed. At one point, though, there was a craze about Dickies pants because they fit in uniform regulation, but they were street pants. There was a little bullying over that for about a month or so, but it didn't happen to very many people.

Uniforms are easier to express individuality with. People tend to notice the little things, like how much a person smiles or something like that.

[YamPuff]

Uniforms are easier to express individuality with. People tend to notice the little things, like how much a person smiles or something like that.
Yeah, I think individuality is hardly to be expressed by something as meaningless as clothes. If that's the only way you have to 'express' yourself, than you're a pretty sad case and need to rethink your individuality.

[CrazyCat]

I go to a public school so I don't have a school uniform and I don't really want one either. Only because then I'd probably have to wear a skirt and I don't wear them unless forced to. Also, I'd rather not look the same as everyone else. I don't really care about my clothes and pulling whatever out of my closet every morning works for me but having to wear a skirt...no

[zetsui101]

I go to a public school so I don't have a school uniform and I don't really want one either. Only because then I'd probably have to wear a skirt and I don't wear them unless forced to. Also, I'd rather not look the same as everyone else. I don't really care about my clothes and pulling whatever out of my closet every morning works for me but having to wear a skirt...no
It depends on the schools in the area. The charter schools I know of that have uniforms often has a uniform dress code. Because of the uniform dress code, I don't have to wear a skirt everyday. It just depends on the area you're from and the school's requirements.

[jennywarnerxx]

Yeah, I think individuality is hardly to be expressed by something as meaningless as clothes. If that's the only way you have to 'express' yourself, than you're a pretty sad case and need to rethink your individuality.

I think what is sadder is the notion that kids are going to be too distracted by someone's T-shirt to pay attention in class. Learning self-control is apart being a responsible adult. If you never learn how to deal with distractions, you can't learn to ignore them.

But, I think school uniforms have more to do with an attempt to subjugate youth with groupthink brainwashing than anything else. There are some models of behavior people need to observe to live in a cultured society, but forcing people to dress and look alike is cult behavior.

America is all about individuality, and it is a common human desire to want to be unique. How we dress is how we present ourselves to others. Our clothing sends visual cues about how we perceive ourselves. To say individuality cannot be expressed through clothing is just plain false, as we judge with our eyes before we judge with our hearts.

[Jacku]

I go to a public school so I don't have a school uniform and I don't really want one either. Only because then I'd probably have to wear a skirt and I don't wear them unless forced to. Also, I'd rather not look the same as everyone else. I don't really care about my clothes and pulling whatever out of my closet every morning works for me but having to wear a skirt...no

If you ask me I don't like it if girls are forced to wear skirts.
I'm glad I can wear pants at my school. :)

[Aratos]

America is all about individuality, and it is a common human desire to want to be unique. How we dress is how we present ourselves to others. Our clothing sends visual cues about how we perceive ourselves. To say individuality cannot be expressed through clothing is just plain false, as we judge with our eyes before we judge with our hearts.


Yesss.... America is all about individuality.... No it's not. No sane society would favour individualliy over conformity, and with good cause.

Interestingly, Americans show higher rates of conformity and obediance to those viewed, correctly or incorrectly, as authority figures than people in most other western countrys. Hmm.

And yeah, individuality _can_ be expressed through clothing, but it generally isn't. What clothing is more likely to say is "i associate myself with x group".

[Animechick20]

I say uniform purely because then you don't get even more bullying,I was bullied enough at school without them bullying me because of what I wore to school

[happy_sakura]

If i was allowed to wear my own clothes to school i would have been bullied a hell of a lot more... I was a bit of a goth at the time and the only one in the school (it was quite a small school) and they didnt really like that sort of thing... even the teachers made fun of me, but somehow I was allowed to have purple hair for about a year when hairdye was forbidden by school rules...

[YamPuff]

Usually your clothes are simply a means of showing off. I mean, no one spends as much money on clothes they wear inside that no one will ever see as they do on outside clothes. Unless they're filthy rich. People dress to impress. The actual amount of people that seriously take their appearance as purely self-expression are precious few.

Now, I do have some complaints about uniforms. My mom once saw a girl who went to really strict Catholic schooll with uniforms. And they had to wear short skirts and knee-high socks. In the snow. And the cold. And I might add, the wind. That is not right.

[Aratos]

They have that at non-catholic schools around here. Not even a nice colour either.

[Jacku]

Now, I do have some complaints about uniforms. My mom once saw a girl who went to really strict Catholic schooll with uniforms. And they had to wear short skirts and knee-high socks. In the snow. And the cold. And I might add, the wind. That is not right.

And so girls should not have to wear skirts as part of their uniform.
Not only will the weather be cold and breezy creepy old perverts may come along...

[jennywarnerxx]

Yesss.... America is all about individuality.... No it's not. No sane society would favour individualliy over conformity, and with good cause.

Interestingly, Americans show higher rates of conformity and obediance to those viewed, correctly or incorrectly, as authority figures than people in most other western countrys. Hmm.

And yeah, individuality _can_ be expressed through clothing, but it generally isn't. What clothing is more likely to say is "i associate myself with x group".

I do not believe the desire for most Americans to not burn down their own cities or attempt coups against their governments is an example of conformity. It's an example of the democracy at work in the US-- we don't need to attempt coups or burn down our cities to get politicians attention, because they only stay in office as long as we want them to be there.

Because of the size and population of the US, and our unique perspective on an individual's right to express individuality, there is argueably more cultural distinct groups in the US than in most other countries in the world. Hell, there is probably more distinct cultures in L.A. than there is in most countries in the world. We pretty much get them all. Are there various so-called "family advocate" groups that try to force everyone to conform to one particular way of life? Yes, but they aren't represenative of the majority. Although the media likes to present there being a couple main culture groups (usually along racist lines, like "whites" and "blacks"), there is MANY sub-groups within the US. I would not lump Portland, OR skaters into the same culture as rural farming communities in Louisiana, even if the majority of both cultures have members with white skin. They don't see the world the same, they tend to speak with different dialects, they don't partake in the same social customs and habits, they don't celebrate the same events, and they sure as hell don't dress the same.

Also, by associating yourself with one group, you thereby disassociate yourself with several other groups. Belonging to a group awards individuality too you know. Labels do not detract individuality; they express it by pointing out what something is not.

This is an apple.
This is an orange.

They look different, therefore are different.
Even if they belong to the same main foodgroup.

[Yuna19]

when I went to school we had a dress code and it also came with a new principal! :mad: I think that the dress code and having uniforms are stupid... You can't be your self in a uniform... Then the dress code tells us how and how not to dress... I understand the dress code if people are showing to much but, when I was in school you had to turn you shirt inside out because it had an "inappropriate" logo on it... and the teachers got to be the judge of how you dressed.... WHATEVER!

[Aratos]

And so girls should not have to wear skirts as part of their uniform.
Not only will the weather be cold and breezy creepy old perverts may come along...


"old" perverts? Y'mean us young folk can't ahev any fun? ;p

[MetalMouth]

when I went to school we had a dress code and it also came with a new principal! :mad: I think that the dress code and having uniforms are stupid... You can't be your self in a uniform... Then the dress code tells us how and how not to dress... I understand the dress code if people are showing to much but, when I was in school you had to turn you shirt inside out because it had an "inappropriate" logo on it... and the teachers got to be the judge of how you dressed.... WHATEVER!
I don't think that I could disagree with this any more.
I think if you allow clothes to dictate "being yourself" that is a bit ridiculous.
Wearing a uniform prevents harassment for being different.
Though you can still be different when wearing a uniform.
For example, being very kind. The difference here would be your good personality, only now it shows more so because people can't judge you based off of your appearance.

[zetsui101]

when I went to school we had a dress code and it also came with a new principal! :mad: I think that the dress code and having uniforms are stupid... You can't be your self in a uniform... Then the dress code tells us how and how not to dress... I understand the dress code if people are showing to much but, when I was in school you had to turn you shirt inside out because it had an "inappropriate" logo on it... and the teachers got to be the judge of how you dressed.... WHATEVER!
actually, what I've learned from personal experience, uniforms are easier to express individuality. Dress code is supposed to tell how a person can and cannot dress at school if there is a uniform. But, hopefully, your school hasn't hung the appropriate uniform clothing articles on teh wall above the teachers lounge window. thank goodness the principal decided to take those down... -.-'

Turning a shirt inside out because of an inappropraite logo isn't a surprise. The counselor always told me that it was to make schools safer. Whether or not that happens is another story...

[Jacku]

"old" perverts? Y'mean us young folk can't ahev any fun? ;p

Oh shush and go to an anime con where there are plenty of short skirts. XP

[Aratos]

But there are so many at the local private school!

[kite.]

Schools are technically a place of business so I think it would be fun to have both students and staff alike to all hve to wear business arite. Suits. Even the custodial staff. Suits, suits, suits. That would be interesting, well in my mind it would.

I understand the dress code if people are showing to much but, when I was in school you had to turn you shirt inside out because it had an "inappropriate" logo on it... and the teachers got to be the judge of how you dressed.... WHATEVER!

Well who else would be the judge? Certainly not you or your peers. I know, I know, there are some cases that are just plain rediculous, but then again, there are the few that do cross the line. Personally, I keep in line for the fashion department. I have a shirt that has a bottle of vodka on it and says "Black Russian, it's just like water only better" but I'm not planning one wearing it to school. Why would you really need to wear a sirt that promotes alcahol in a school when you aren't legally permitted to even have alcahold?[with the exception of some people like Aratos of course :P]
I think the best thing to do is quite complaining if a teacher says you can't wear something if it's deemed "innapropriate" unless of course it's nothing bad at all. You don't need to make a fuss about everyhting, especially something like this that will mean absolutely nothing in a few short years.

[LUKEJAKE17]

I go to a public school, no uniform. But I like uniforms.


My Reasoning: My friend was complaining to me about the fact that her high school is making the seniors have a blue background for the yearbook. She didn't like it because (she says) it eliminates individuality. And coming to the topic of school uniforms, she says that elimiates indivd. also. I remember reading an entry in her livejournal saying how you dress makes your personality, and more individual. When I disagreed, she just said "WEll, it just doesn't apply to you. but it does for most people."

That really pi$$Ed me off!! (I'll stop complaining about my friend now...)

IF everyone dresses the same, and yet a person sticks out, then that person is truly an individual because s/he doesn't need the clothes, the walk/talk.


Your opinion?
(Personally, from this thread, I really want to understand what people see as "being an individual".)
your freinds right! shes so right ! your dressing style does make your personality. your freinds got class.


of course ill say it doesnt really make up your whole personality but i just meant it creates your look, your appearence obviously is important.

[YamPuff]

All this fuss over clothes. Individuality is so much more than clothes. Its school, people, not the catwalk. You're meant to go their to learn not make a fashion statement. :rolleyes:

[Nekochii]

Sometimes I think it would be easier if our school did had uniforms. I'm tired of trying to keep up with the latest fashion trend and what not. I'd just rather get up, throw on a boring grey uniform, and save my pretty clothes for when I'm actually going out to socialize and have fun, not spending 5 hours sitting in a classroom.

[Angel of Chaos]

All this fuss over clothes. Individuality is so much more than clothes. Its school, people, not the catwalk. You're meant to go their to learn not make a fashion statement.


Yes I so agree!

[Kaoru]

Sometimes I think it would be easier if our school did had uniforms. I'm tired of trying to keep up with the latest fashion trend and what not. I'd just rather get up, throw on a boring grey uniform, and save my pretty clothes for when I'm actually going out to socialize and have fun, not spending 5 hours sitting in a classroom.
I'd love it if my school had uniforms. They're hot :D Na, na, but it'd be sooo easier to get dressed in the morning. Like you said, just just get up, with all the normal morning stuff just all you'd do is just put on the uniform instead of deciding what to wear. It'd be easier.

[Aratos]

Why would you really need to wear a shirt that promotes alcahol in a school when you aren't legally permitted to even have alcahold?[with the exception of some people like Aratos of course :P]


And just what is that supposed to mean? (¬_¬)

[Gogatsu]

And just what is that supposed to mean? (¬_¬)


Are you on the sauce? If so I think he or she is trying to say you need to lay off it.

[Aratos]

what is this "sauce" of which you speak, citizen?

[Gogatsu]

what is this "sauce" of which you speak, citizen?


"Sauce" is slang term for alcohol or liquor. They don't say that in scotland?

[Aratos]

No, no we don't. Or at least not in this part of Scotland.

[Gogatsu]

Is there another word for alcohol?

[Chuplayer]

The more I read this thread, the more I remember my time in middle school and high school, and the more I remember how school was a lot like a prototype police state. There were no uniforms in my schools, but looking at this thread makes me realize how gradually the absolute control of these control freaks is getting bigger.

WTF at the "shoes have to be absolutely black and if not must be colored black with a sharpie." WTF at the "no dying your hair even if it's a natural color."

All this crap really ticks me off. Sooner or later, all schools will administer more and more control over every aspect of every student's life, even outside of school. Then everyone will become so desensitized to it at such a young age, they're going to welcome the police state. It's in its final stages in Britain, and it's coming to the USA. Just look at China. Do we want to become like them?

Granted, I'm getting kinda off topic, but all this uniform/dress code bullcrap is just one of the ways the school administrators are trying to control the lives of young people. It's perverse.

[Ichigosmiles]

Granted, I'm getting kinda off topic, but all this uniform/dress code bullcrap is just one of the ways the school administrators are trying to control the lives of young people. It's perverse.

But even without the dress codes, everyone at school gets made fun of if they seem different so basically it's kinda of like wearing a school uniform, if not, worse. That's the way I see it anyway:)

[Chuplayer]

But even without the dress codes, everyone at school gets made fun of if they seem different so basically it's kinda of like wearing a school uniform, if not, worse. That's the way I see it anyway:)

I'm not sure what point you're trying to get at, so I'm just going to bring up the classic big nose example. A kid with a ginormous schnoz is going to get made fun of during some point in their life. A dress code isn't going to protect that kid. Good teachers can.

If you're not going to be made fun of because of your clothes, you're going to be made fun of because of something else. Maybe you won't be made fun of for your socioeconomic status, but you're definitely going to be made fun of for your ginormous schnoz. Anyone who hides behind the socioeconomic argument can go straight to hell. Saying it stops that sort of hurt is only making themselves feel better. It won't stop the kid's pain.

[Aratos]

Is there another word for alcohol?

booze? drink? hooch?

[Gogatsu]

booze? drink? hooch?


I've heard those before, they say them here. I thought you would have had a special name or something, but I guess not.

[Aratos]

Remember, most American phrases were British first. That and some of the slang we _do_ have hear isn't suitable tae be repeatin' oan this 'ere messageboard, ken?

[tomselleck69]

'pain-go-bye-bye-juice' is my favorite euphamism for alcohol.


also since most people can't dress themselves to save their lives, so i think uniforms are a good thing. that and it makes for teenagers that are even more pissy and obnoxious than they usually would be.

and we all know that pissy, obnoxious teenagers are our most important natural resource.

[zetsui101]

Well, for some people, a dress code is kinda like a culture shock. I remeber getting frustrated in the fifth grade when my mom first handed me the application for the school I currently attend because I found out that the school required a uniform. It has actually made school shopping easier to bear in the fall.

Schools are technically a place of business so I think it would be fun to have both students and staff alike to all hve to wear business arite. Suits. Even the custodial staff. Suits, suits, suits. That would be interesting, well in my mind it would.

Actually, my math teacher (well, fmr math teacher. he can't teach math anymore) wears a polo shirt just like the students and sweat pants (the man teaches p.e) or uniform-style shorts if the day is hot. He almost passes off for a student, except he has a fuzzy little goatee thing... ^^; As for the other teacheers, they'd look wierd wearing the school uniform, er, somehting similar to the unfirom. Though the janitors wear polos just like the students. ^^ Luckily, there's still freedom to wear whatever shoes we want (minus flip-flops), and whatever accessories (wristbands, etc.). Then again, I've had unifroms since my first year of middle school, so...

[n00b]

Don't really care, as long as I pass :S

[YamPuff]

that and it makes for teenagers that are even more pissy and obnoxious than they usually would be.

and we all know that pissy, obnoxious teenagers are our most important natural resource.
You are my hero, kitty-toast man. XD Who cares what teenagers think? I know I don't. Always hated teens.

[Nyanyan]

Who cares what teenagers think? I know I don't. Always hated teens.

Teens are the future leaders of the world!! Or so, as the saying goes.

I prefer uniforms to dress codes. I had been wearing them for 12 schooling years... Especially uniforms with neck ties! One of the reasons why I became a prefect in my high school years. XD

[YamPuff]

That's what teens want you to think. They are actually just self-centered obnoxious creatures who want what they want when they want it. Few exceptions, though.

[LUKEJAKE17]

That's what teens want you to think. They are actually just self-centered obnoxious creatures who want what they want when they want it. Few exceptions, though.
like you and me. COME ON YAMPUFF! JOIN ME! AND WE WILL RULE THE SITE TOGETHER, THERES NO POINT DOING IT ON OUR OWN!

[zetsui101]

I prefer uniforms to dress codes. I had been wearing them for 12 schooling years... Especially uniforms with neck ties! One of the reasons why I became a prefect in my high school years. XD

I love how neck ties look with my uniform! It feels very cosplayish... ^^l/,, Recently, though, with my current theatrical activities, I've had a little more time to ditch the unfirom, and I realize how uncomfortable my regular clothes are (isn't that crazy?!?).

[Ladiofthelibrary]

My school has a dress code, but not a very strict one, and I love how I can wear what I feel like wearing each day. I do enjoy occasionally wearing uniform-type clothes, as I think they're fun, but not to wear everyday. And while I do agree with you, Ev-Sam, that some day-clothes are uncomfortable, maybe it's just your wardrobe...? Try buying more comfy clothes^^

[Ichigosmiles]

You are my hero, kitty-toast man. XD Who cares what teenagers think? I know I don't. Always hated teens.

Ugh... teens are such a nuisance. Ichigosmiles agrees with Yampuff there.

[Animelvr13]

Why do yall hate teens? Even I'm a teenager and I wear shcool uniforms and I've gotten use to it but i still wish that we could wear pants and t-shirts.

[Meroko Yui]

why does everyone hate teens based on stereotypes??? It makes me mad... anyway, I'd prefer school uniforms. Some of the clothes people at my school wear are obnoxious, and girls dress like they're prostitutes even though we have a dress code... you also have to worry about whether or not you're wearing gang colors... (at my school anyway... it's bad)

[marukufusen]

i go whit uniform.dress code is almost the same as a uniforn right? there is not much difference, they tell you how to dress but whit any other dress you want.

[Seal Pup]

I think a school uniform is better, so you don't have to wear your own clothes to the filthy establishments. Although a school uniform that is actually nice. Unlike the frumpy garments they expect people to wear in England. Blazers can be particularly unflattering.

[Vicious1]

Well are we talking those anime style short tiny skool girl type small skirts

[melusinespuppet]

I don't really mind about uniforms. I take a long time to get ready so i'd help, But it's fun to choose your clothing. Has anyone read the Clique? In the book they have a fashion show where students designed they're own uniforms with many varieties and choices. If our school were to have it that would be awesome.

[aska-su]

let's see i've never had to wear a uniform before, but if clothes is what makes you who you are well then...that kinda stinks..
i know people like to express who they are by what they were, but there are other things that make you an individual.
Anyways, i probably wouldn't mind wearing uniforms..some people worry to much on if some else has the same outfit as you and other stuff.
But if everyone is wearing the same thing, you'd be focus on what's really important..
Learning.
not to mention in the real world some jobs require some sort of uniform or certian attire

[Jacku]

Well are we talking those anime style short tiny skool girl type small skirts

Guess you haven't been reading the previous posts.
Everyone is talking about REAL school uniforms that are as boring as you can imagine that don't magically fly up and reveal panty shots (that is... there's no wind or something).
Yes, such things exist. :eek:

[Emixpearl]

I love my uniform*, most of the girls hate it (I go to an all-girls school) but I don't (it's a really cute one! XD). Besides, my parents and I don't have a lot of money, so I can't afford the lastest fashions.
And it's not like you can't express your individuality, I have lots of badges/buttons I can stick on my blazer, and you can choose your own school bag and pencil case etc.


* In the UK, almost every school has a uniform and it is compulsory to wear it.

[preciousstarnhsnt]

I really like that saying that jia_feong had at the very begining it's true. I like dress code but I wouldn't mind a uniform.

[KierEmJy0]

In Australia all schools have to have a uniform. Sooo, we don't have a choice. Oh there are some, but they have to wear their uniforms at least afew times a week. I only know of that one, and it's a dirty school.

Any way, I never minded the whole school uniform thing. My friends all seemed to want to go to a school that let you wear what ever you want, but hell, what's the point. Then everyone would be fussing over what to wear every day. I don't wanna have to worry about that!

I've finished school now, and with my job you don't get to wear anythin that stylish... Or you'll end up with paint all over your new threads.. xox

[Talim]

I go to a public school ... but I wish that we had uniforms. They sound really nice. I don't care what color, because you don't have to worry about the way you dress at school or if kids will make fun of you if you wear those other clothes. And ... I'm kinda tired that people do that. It's just wrong. -_____-

[Rymel]

i haven't read every post yet, but i'd have to say i'm on the fence on the issue...with a leg dangling over on the dress code side. the area i live in has tons of catholic schools, so i've seen my fair share of uniforms, but i went to a public school where we just had to follow certain guidelines. uniforms make getting dressed easy yea, and it does put the focus on learning but really if you're that self conscious about how your clothes look while you're sitting in class, to the point where you can't focus...what you're wearing is hardly the issue. uniforms create a bit of a paradox for people that can be easily misinterpreted - how many times have you seen that 'sweet, nice girl' in the uniform get criticized out in public by a stranger that she's some sort of misfit just cuz she's wearing baggy pants or gothed/punked out? i'm a guy, and i get that just for standing there any given day of the week as it is. an idea that probably wouldn't really fly that runs along the 'custom uniform fashion show' would be to have an optional uniform with a guideline for how it HAS to be, with provisions to allow individual accents. that could possibly make the uniform option more appealing, and we all know how certain characters in anime always have some sort of special look to their uniforms...

sorry if this doesn't make much sense, the phone rang numerous times trying to type this...

[chocopocko]

my problem is that uniforms are way uptight, you know. i mean all those regulations and measurements and stuff really get old. the people all dressed the same look like some part of a utopian society (those tend to creep me out) maybe here in Sand Diego we are just too laid back at public school to obey uniform codes. or dress codes for that matter. i violate the dress code....along with half (or more) of the other girls and most guys (sagging...)

[Rymel]

eh i think when it gets to actual numbers in measurements it's getting out of hand. i wouldn't go so far as comparing it to a utopian society..though i'm sure some of the faculty would think otherwise. i think using uniforms and dress codes as simply guidelines would work far better than strict ones.

and on another note...nice icon, where's it from?

[Meroko Yui]

I'm all for uniforms because I've seen so many kids get bullied at my school for what they wear... and I'm so tired of seeing gang clothing. Plus, if you wear the "wrong colors" you could get yourself beaten up by gangsters... at least that's what I've seen in one school... not mine...

[Yuuki]

i like uniforms cause people cant make fun of what your wearing if their wearing the same thing!

[Exquiro]

I don't know if anyone is gonna agree with me on this but what I've found with the whole bullying issue is that if the victim didn't dress badly then the bully would either bully them for it anyway, or find another reason to pick on them. If it's not 'You have no taste in clothing' it's gonna be 'You have big ears', 'You smell funny' 'You're hair looks like a mushroom' Ya know?

[aoife123]

I hated the way my school uniform looked but I still wouldn't like having to get up every morning and decide what I'm going to wear. There's also the fact that I have this weird mentallity that I didn't want the evil that is school to taint what I wear when I am free from school.

[Rymel]

while it's true that if it's not your clothes to pick on they'll always find something to pick on, over all that is 'how you are'. personal experience has shown me if you don't LOOK like you can get harassed you won't BE harassed. and if you can't seem to shake the feeling of the chances you will be, be prepared to defend yourself, physically, mentally or verbally. i know this sounds like lecturing or whatever, but i grew up getting picked on for being a dork and a half up until somewhere in high school. then i just started hanging out with other dorks heheh (and...i rocked out and cut class with them but *cof* anyways). and i don't care if anyone says otherwise...if you get around anywhere long enough, you have to put up with the same crap on the street too. i have to put up with it all the time because i have a pretty good-sized birthmark on my face that hip hop kids seem to like to think i got from getting knocked out (which subsequently would make me want to knock them out, but i walk). so to me if you don't nip it in the bud in the easiest place to get it taken care of, you'll run into problems elsewhere. school's still 'protected zone'. anywhere else is unregulated...

i still stand behind individuality, but i've noticed that uniforms bring about a different sense of rebellion and more subtle individuality...

[LadyCoco]

I'm gonna have to wear a uniform next year for High School. It's actually pretty cool. I'm going to have lots of options and it's all pretty cute. The only bad thing is how expensive it is!!! They want like 30 bucks for a polo shirt. I can get a regular outfit way cheaper.

[Rymel]

...does it say 'armani' on it somewhere? XD

[MangaPoppy]

If I had to wear a uniform at school I would dye it black and go emo. Not kiddding lol.

[MangaPoppy]

Wait going emo would be fun!!:D :D :Go uniforms yay !!: :D :D

[Saikyo]

I don't mind uniforms as long as they're appropriate for wearing during seasons. Can't stand long pants and a tie during spring to summer interval.

[Polaris]

We have a school uniform, as do almost all schools in England, and I'm one of the few people who really likes it, simply because I love wearing ties and shirts and blazers. XD

However, in 6th form, there isn't a uniform. But that's just one of the many privileges of staying on at the school. I'm looking forward to it, but I'll miss my uniform.

[Saikyo]

But doesn't it get hot during the springtime? That was my only problem. Other than that, I don't mind it either and it helps save time not having to choose what to wear (not that I do).

[Polaris]

But doesn't it get hot during the springtime?
No hotter than normal clothes would. Our uniform isn't really strict; in the summer we don't have to wear blazers and can have short sleeved shirts and such.

Besides, in England it's not that hot for very long during the summer, although it was quite bad last year. XD

[Saikyo]

I see. I mostly felt bad for the girls in my junior high who had to wear skirts even for winter.

[WhistleBlower]

My uniform sucks.
Walking in winter is murder.

[Exquiro]

I couldn't have a uniform... I'm not rich enough XD
I think the only reason I would ever want a uniform is so that I could wreck it. If they gave me one I would totally dye it all, tear it up, break the rules as much as possible just to see how much I could get away with.

[WhistleBlower]

Wearing the uniform wrong gets you suspended. I don't know what they would do if they saw someone dystroyed it.

[PururinEleven]

A few years back they wanted to try the idea of uniforms. It didn't go over well with anyone. At all. Some of the kids liked the idea, but only a small handful. That was the last I heard of any such idea in our school system.

[Kiyomidesu]

i like school uniforms!

[Wizardmon]

UNIFORMS ALL THE WAY!!!!!! hahaha

I had always wear uniforms, lucky for me the ones I used I did like alot. Too bad I don't have to anymore but I put together my own uniform just for fun only with a little twist, I wear platform boots and a long black coat. O.O It goes something like this:

http://www.tokyopop.com/LOKI01/art/108730.html

[Tchaikorin]

I wouldn't mind wearing a uniform, as long as it was fashionable.

[Raina]

It doesn't matter to me. I can see the upsides to it and a few downsides to as well. But mostly the upside.

[tikifuji]

my old school made us wear a setain type of uniform that you buy from the store.Its was encredibly plane.It consisted of only white shirts,light blue shirts.and navy blue shirts.Then navy pants/skirts plus kahki pants/skirts.The thing that I hate the most about my school uniform is the excuses they had for making us wear it.One of them was so we didnt jion gangs and I had no idea how wearing a certain type of clothing autimatically makes you prone to joining gangs.They wanted us to be all equal by making us wear the same type of clothes but that didnt stop any discimanation against anybody and there wasnt very much but it was because we were taught not to discrimanate people the clothes didnt do anything.

[CodeBreach]

school uniform is cool but so is emo clothing. so hard to decide. oh and tiki i love your sig

[Exquiro]

Depends on the country. Japanese school uniforms are the most adorable little outfits I ever laid eyes on. Here in Britain they can BURRRNNNNN.

[CodeBreach]

Depends on the country. Japanese school uniforms are the most adorable little outfits I ever laid eyes on. Here in Britain they can BURRRNNNNN.
hahahaha. http://www.archivist.f2s.com/bsu/indexpix/trad-school.jpg i can see why.

[anythinganime]

I go to a school that requires a uniform at all times unless it is your b-day or every other friday. This may seem fair for a uniform school, though it isn't since they may take away your free dress if not in uniform or did not follow the shoes or belt policy. We also are required to wear sweaters and heels on Mondays, so it really is not fun.

I prefer no uniform since it would just be a little easier for everybody than worrying about if we are following the uniform code or not.

[MiyaPi]

my elementary school uniform was a fuku one...and im a guy! owo;;
But they changed it the second year I had attended it, so i was pleased
o ( ^ w ^;; ) o
my highschool was just blouse, grey pants and blue overcoat thingy
owo;;

[maguxpepsi]

I like how uniforms look. I think the point of it is too make the group look uniform instead of a random group of people. Obviously, even if you have your individual tastes, you'd where a suit to an office, a shirt to a fastfood restraunt, and a uniform where it's required.
Also not as much descrimination about taste in fashion occurs when a uniform is required.

[happyonigiri]

I love dressing the way I want, but uniforms would make school a lot easier. Nobody would have reasons to talk about anyone else, and it would really tone down the drama. Plus, some look cool. ^_^

[Papersak]

Eh, they have their ups and downs. Last uniforms I wore were too hot when it was warm and not warm enough when it was cold. >_>

Then I went to a public school and could adjust to whatever. And I dunno... maybe I'm oblivous to it, but I don't see as many fashion-obsessors at my school as most people say there are. *shrug* And I just like going to school wearing fun shirts... and not having to choose between a skirt or uber-guyish pants. But if other people liked wearing them, that's kewl by me...

Though uniforms are nice cause then you don't have to think about what to wear... and you guys are right that you can notice their personality more.

... hum. I voted "Dress Code" but eh, maybe I should've said "doesn't matter." Ah well. ^^;

[sandytaty]

I love uniforms because it bring me memories:p, plus everybody have different point of view, and we have to respect them.

I believe I understand you, my friends hate uniforms, and I dont:( .

[xxrawrbabyrawrxx]

i actually like wearing uniforms. u don't have to get up every morning and think what to wear. come to think of it..i've been wearing uniforms since as long as i can remember lol

[Nekochii]

For me is teally depends on what the uniforms look like. I've seen some really cute one and some really ugly ones as well, but I guess I everyone else in the school is wearing it then it doesn't really matter.

[sleepyhead]

Well if we had uniforms then people would stop bragging on what designers there wearing. And Plus u can personalize them. also there would be fewer laundry trips, however i would like to know what they looked like before deciding.

[KeroKitty]

Doesn`t matter to me. I have to wear a school uniform at my school and I don`t really care. Besides, since I`m so much into Japanese Fashion, like Decora, if we had the option of wearing what we want to wear to school, I`d most likely through something random on, and come to school looking all Japanese-y and be the odd ball. Either that or just wear everyday casual clothes as if we wear still required to wear school uniforms.

[Lagozzino]

well I used to wear a uniform in highschool and now for college I don't have to and frankly its the same thing. Instead of waking up and slapping on the uniform, you wake up and throw on some clothes. Maybe its because college is more mature than highschool but nobody really actually cares what you wear (...well as long as you're not like 300 pounds and wearing a leather miniskirt. *shudder*)

[CamoNekoChan]

No "none of the above" button? Unfourtunately for me, my school might get a uniform. They're probaly rallying for plaid skirts. I'm scared. *hides*

[ce11o]

The whole sailor uniform would be cute, like Saya from Blood+, but I doubt my school would ever go anywhere near that. I want uniforms, I really don't care how they would look. Maybe it would stop people from judging each other so much.
-slapsmyself- Abby stop being stupid, uniforms don't change who people are on the inside.
Yeah I know... but it might be fun, if just for a little bit.

[Blackthornhiei]

Schools in my country (both public and private) are required uniforms by law. My school even had a different uniform for junior school and senior school. Parents had the choice to buy them from the school or have seamstress make them (only restrictions where fabric and color).

Even though the uniform regulations where though, we could still express our individuality. Some girls wore the skirts shorts, some long, half-ties were different lenghts, we were allowed to wear pins and buttons on out ties and half-ties... it was cool.

Besides, having a uniform is better for the parent's wallet and it made Jeans Day even more special (Jeans Day was a day in each trimester where we where allowed to wear what we wanted. We had to pay 10.00 colones... around $1.50 for the privilege XD. That money went to class activities).

It was cool having a uniform.

[Johnni]

I went to a school for a year that had uniforms. Didn't matter to me. Loved not having to worry about what to wear aside from if it's clean. Hated getting dress code infractions because I wore white socks instead of black or navy blue ones.

[ce11o]

Maybe we like the idea because so much perverted stuff seems to happen in those things XD

I'm truly kidding, I hate when people break dress code and act like sluts.
Which seems to happen to almost everyone but my group of friends at school. -shudders-

[Hatamelon]

I don't mind uniforms because obviously there's ways to personalize them. I wear a uniform to my martial arts classes. But I too go to a public school, and I wouldn't mind a uniform but there's no way in hell anyone is getting my arse in one of those short skirts. I would like a guys uniform please. lol. Anyway, I think a uniform is kinda a test. You can make it different, just how? =) It kind of takes away any competition dress wise but I also know why people wouldn't like it. But oh well, I'm not much into the Catholic schools around here. To much money, lol.

[eddy]

i perosnally dont lik uniforms but when a hot girl tells me wha 2 do in a uniform..........HELLS YEA!!!