Doctor Who!

[GracieLizzy]

The new series of Doctor Who starts on Sci-Fi tommorrow (March 17th). I've seen it already of course as it aired over here in the UK last year but I'm really looking foward to it finding new fans in the USA! I also can't wait till series 2 airs over here (looks like it'll be some time in April).

Anyone else a fan?

[Kyaa the Catlord]

*grin* I'm a fan! :D

I'd turn gay for Christopher Eccleston. :P

[CatMarieS]

Sounds exciting. I haven't seen the original, but I'll try to catch this one.

[Shadow Ranger Blue]

I've already seen all the eps too as I'm also from the UK but I love this show, its just so cool. I can't wait for the new season to begin here

[Crosis101]

Hopefully this will be good. As a Loyal Whovian from way back ((they Showed it in Chicago on sunday nights at midnight.)) I hope the Good Doctor is infact, good.

[Libby]

Yayayayayayay! I can't wait! I downloaded the whole series already, but this is a Good Thing, and I will be watching excitedly! XD XD XD

[QuikBunny]

I will be watching this series as I am a huge Billie Piper fan and for someone like me who lives in the states to chance to see one of your fav people is something I am definitely gonna take!

[Aratos]

I didn't think Eccleston was very good as the Doctor really. And I really didn't like Billia Piper as an assistant, which sort of spoiled the series for me. Not to mention I'm used to three-part serials. The next series looks like it should be an improvement though. Tenant seems a much better Doctor, on top of which Sarah Jane's gonna be returning, and being a huge fan of the Tom baker era I'm always happy to see them bringing back characters from back then.

[beedlejuice]

I didn't think Eccleston was very good as the Doctor really. And I really didn't like Billia Piper as an assistant, which sort of spoiled the series for me. Not to mention I'm used to three-part serials. The next series looks like it should be an improvement though. Tenant seems a much better Doctor, on top of which Sarah Jane's gonna be returning, and being a huge fan of the Tom baker era I'm always happy to see them bringing back characters from back then.


I can't say I agree with that. I thought he was a really good doctor, myself. I liked the energy, heart and humor he brought to the role. Still, the great thing about Dr. Who is that everyone has their favorite doctors.

Gotta agree that Season 2 looks promising, though. The Christmas Invasion was fun, and I'm dying to see the Cybermen!!

Yeah, everyone who hasn't seen the new Dr. Who yet should definitely try to watch it on Sci-Fi tomorrow. According to the BBC website, whether Season 2 airs in America or not depends on how well Season 1 does, so let's make it a hit!

[Werewolflemming]

I'm looking forward to the second series so much! Can't wait till April. I think Christopher Eccleston was alright, and I hope David Tennant is good. I liked him in the Christmas invasion, even though he was unconscious for most of it!

[Aratos]

Where does this "season 2" phrase come from? New Doctor, so it's back to series one again.

[Countess Cain]

I'm watching it on Sci-Fi right now. It's the first experience I've had with Doctor Who, and so far I'm enjoying it. I'll probably end up watching more episodes as they come. =D

[Nikora]

ready seen the first new series myself, aired here in New Zealand last year, tis really worth the watch! Both the actors did a great job, and i quite like the one episode = new story concept. Must say ive been a Dr Who fan for quite a few years, ever since the first original episode (black and white) aired on Prime tv.

How many seasons are there going to be?

[Arcademan]

Just finished watcing the first 2 episodes on Sci-Fi Channel. Good to see him back on TV. I'm a big fan of the classic Doctor Who...have all the movies on tape, going all the way back to "An Unearthly Child" November 1963 with William Hartnell.

[Fanservice Alchemist]

I grew up watching Doctor Who in the '80s, but I was fortunate enough to see pretty much the entire original series including some of the recovered stories from the first two Doctors.

Haven now seen the Ninth Doctor, I really do like him a lot. I can see a little bit of the crankiness of the First Doctor, the sarcasm of the Sixth Doctor, and the manic energy of the Eighth Doctor in him. I like the approach of the new series in which the Doctor is still the catalyst for most of what happens, but the focus is not always on him.

I'm definitely hooked...

[Arcademan]

So far Doctor Who (shown Friday nights at 9 pm EDT on Sci-Fi Channel) has been impressive...and now in England the new season of Doctor Who has already started and from what I've heard, the first 2 episodes have been great.

Also a heads up, the Christopher Eccleston Doctor Who season will be available on DVD in the U.S. on July 4, 2006.

[GracieLizzy]

How many seasons are there going to be?

A third has been green lighted, and their is going to a spin-off featuring Capt. Jack Harkness as one of the leads called Torchwood.

[Kantami]

I cant stand Doctor Who! I hate the damn thing!!!

[Arcademan]

I cant stand Doctor Who! I hate the damn thing!!!

The best show ever made on television!!! Been watching it since 1963 (which is strange since I was born in 1965) :p

[chriswithchrist]

I've been a die hard fan since Tom Baker! I used to be in the Canadian and US fan clubs. I remember going to several conventions! Those were the days. When I heard Dr. Who was coming back I was charged! I have been watching the new Who on Sci-Fi. I love it! That is how I fell in love with my wife!:eek:

[Arcademan]

Another great episode last night. I'm really impressed on how good the new Doctor Who episodes have been :)

[Aratos]

I'll be more impressed when they get more scriptwriters in. I'm not a fan of Davies or whatever his name is. Too much overuse of real historic figures.

[GracieLizzy]

Erm, that's the first time a Davies episode used a real historical figure. The Unquiet Dead was written by Mark Gatiss. Although RTD does come up with small descriptions for each episode which usually mention if he wants a historical figure in the episode and I did hear that Gatiss was intially reluctant to put Dicken's in TUD.

Personally I think Tooth and Claw was RTD's best episode as writer and that it was leaps and bounds better than New Earth. Not as good as Dalek, Father's Day, or The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, but still very good - on par with TUD (which I really enjoyed) if not a smidgin better.

[Aratos]

Bring back terrence Dicks, I say.

[Arcademan]

In the United States, the first new season of Doctor Who will be available on DVD on July 4th. I already have mine pre-ordered :D

[Aratos]

Huzzah for scientific inacuracy! Shouting in a vacuum. Brilliant.

Incidently, anyone else gonna go ad if the word "torchwood" gets spoken in a very obvious way just one more time?

[Mathew]

Whenever The Doctor talks about the Tardis, he refers to it as a living thing, yet whenever you see him in the control room whilst it's travelling through time, he's hitting the console with a Hammer!!!

[Aratos]

True. true. And he was only in last weeks episode for about four minutes. First they start concentrating mainly on bloody rose, then turn the doctor into a blinkin' plot point. I demand justice!

[Arcademan]

True. true. And he was only in last weeks episode for about four minutes. First they start concentrating mainly on bloody rose, then turn the doctor into a blinkin' plot point. I demand justice!

I'm not a fan of the episodes where they concentrate on the companion more than The Doctor. The whole concept of the companion is for them to wander off, get into trouble and have The Doctor use his genius to rescue them...as well as the entire planet ;)

[Mathew]

There's not much scope to explore with The Doctor, since Davies decided it would be a good idea to have all the Timelords wiped out as part of The Doctor's backstory. Personally, I think the best Doctor Who story is The Deadly Assasin, set on Galifrey, & reveals the Timelords to be pompous procrastinators, and in doing so explains why The Doctor would rather be anywhere else, the story didn't even require an assistant.

[Aratos]

And you know why Davies wiped them out? Because he thought it'd only last one series. Bastard. I mean, seriously, what was he thinking?

And yes, there's plenty of scope. There's teh doctors personality, his acitons, etc. Dr Who isn't supposed ot be a deep character-based drama, remember. Besides, we're talking about the most violent pacifist in the universe here.

[Kantami]

i was dreading this thread i hate doctor who!!!!! DOCTOR WHO SUCKS!!! i have a hate doctor who club!! who wnats to join? (please join :))

[Aratos]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Aratos/gtfo.jpg

(no, no i don't have any other GTFO images. At least none that re polite enough to post.)

[Mathew]

Besides, we're talking about the most violent pacifist in the universe here.

The Doctor helped life evolve on Earth in City of Death by blowing up some aliens spaceship, & subsequently wiped that life out in Earthshock by crashing another spaceship (filled with cybermen) into the Earth, which allowed Mankind to evolve & was probably the only time Adric was of any use.

[shadowmose]

i was dreading this thread i hate doctor who!!!!! DOCTOR WHO SUCKS!!! i have a hate doctor who club!! who wnats to join? (please join :))

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/blueshadowmoses/ani%20gif/GTFO.gif

News Update: Billie Piper won't be back for the third season.

Source:BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/news/cult/news/drwho/2006/06/15/32946.shtml)

[Aratos]

Really? My prayers are answered. Lets have a party.

[Arcademan]

i was dreading this thread i hate doctor who!!!!! DOCTOR WHO SUCKS!!! i have a hate doctor who club!! who wnats to join? (please join :))

If you don't like the Doctor Who series, my advice...STAY AWAY FROM THIS THREAD!!!

There's many shows I can't stand but you don't see me posting in those threads ranting and raving about that, okay?!!

(and to those who posted those 'GTFO' pictures... WELL PLAYED!!! :D )

[Serafimangel]

Really? My prayers are answered. Lets have a party.

Oh, dont celebrate just yet, she is the least annoying of the ones that could be replacing her... all ex soapstar washouts.:(

But david tennant is going to be in series three:rolleyes: which is good...

[Kaoru]

If you don't like the Doctor Who series, my advice...STAY AWAY FROM THIS THREAD!!!

There's many shows I can't stand but you don't see me posting in those threads ranting and raving about that, okay?!!
You can't deny someone the right to post there opinion. This is a discussion board, right?

I think the show was dumb too. I was channel surfing, and I caught a little of it. I could of caught a lot of it if it didn't suck. All I saw of it was some annoying guy walking down a hallway, talking about nonsense, and firing people for no reason.
Defiantly not my kind of show.
I'll join Kantami's Hate Dr. Who Club!

[Arcademan]

1) I'm a moderator. I can do anything.

2) If someone want to discuss WHY they don't like the show, I have no problem with that, like your post. At least you listed some reasons why you didn't like Doctor Who...the other person just said they hated it with no reasons given whatsoever.

So the key word in the statement...DISCUSSION!!!

Doctor Who has been around since 1963...good and bad and in many incarnations. It's not always the best show around and those who glance at a couple of episodes may think it's very stupid however as a whole series, personally I think very highly of it.

[Kaoru]

1) I'm a moderator. I can do anything.
You can't do everything. You have limits here. Now an Administrator can do anything.

But now that I think of it I shouldn't say I hate the show, I just got a bad first impression of it. Tho I have no plans to watch it in the future.

Continue on with your discussion now...

[chriswithchrist]

If you don't like the Doctor Who series, my advice...STAY AWAY FROM THIS THREAD!!!

There's many shows I can't stand but you don't see me posting in those threads ranting and raving about that, okay?!!

YES...for example, South Park. I don't like the show, so I have stopped posting on the thread. I do like the Family Guy...that's funny.
I have been a fan of Dr. Who for a long time. I think this is a great thread. I think they ought to have a Dr.Who Manga! I'm looking forward to the 2nd new season!:cool:

[Kaoru]

I did some research on this Doctor Who, and I still don't like it. You got this time lord guy who randomly travels threw time in a phoneboth, and he can be killed by asprin yet if he gets in a accendent he can just regenerate. I'm sure some people like that kind of story, not me. Tho is sounds intersting to be him.

[Aratos]

It's slightly more complex than that. The Doctor was banished to earth at one point, apart from anything else.

But more importantly, teh basic premise isn't the important thing. I mean, yes, it's stupid quite frankly. That's the point. But the thing is, the storylines were all so well done, and the acting was, well, yeah. Some of it amazing, some not so good. At the time, shop window dummies wandering around the streets -in the middle of the day no less. Much scarier than at night-, dustbins with plungers attached that shouted "exterminate" in electricy voices and killed people and fo course hte mighty cybermen were actually pretty scary. Not to mention they had this neat trick of each story being in three episodes. You got two cliffhangers that left you waiting for the next episode to see how it'd turn out. Fantastic.

[shadowmose]

In the ep. The Satan Pit, is the beast actually Satan or some powerful demon? How does the Beast descibe how Rose will die in the final battle?


Theres a difference is stating why you dislike something and being a troll.

[Aratos]

Does it matter? I think what they were trying to say is, there is no satan, and all religeons are false. However, all suggestions of "the beast" were based on that thing, so in thta sense, yes, it really was satan.Or maybe htey were trying to leave it open ended and say "any religeon could be right, and that thing proves it". I dunno. hard to tell.

[Arcademan]

Well, I looked around in my storage shed outside and found my old Doctor Who tapes. Now my biggest fear was being out in the shed for two years and it does get a tad hot here (up to 115 degrees in the summer.) Popped in a couple of them and they are still in good shape. I may end up tranferring them to DVD very soon since I have a DVD recorder. For now, just to make sure they all work, I'll start from the beginning with "An Unearthly Child", "The Daleks" and "The Edge of Destruction" on the first tape...all from 1963 :)

[chriswithchrist]

Well, I looked around in my storage shed outside and found my old Doctor Who tapes. Now my biggest fear was being out in the shed for two years and it does get a tad hot here (up to 115 degrees in the summer.) Popped in a couple of them and they are still in good shape. I may end up tranferring them to DVD very soon since I have a DVD recorder. For now, just to make sure they all work, I'll start from the beginning with "An Unearthly Child", "The Daleks" and "The Edge of Destruction" on the first tape...all from 1963 :)
Yea! I have tapes as well, but I haven't had the chance to watch them in a long time. Now I just want to buy them on DVD.:cool:

[beedlejuice]

Good luck. They're yet to release classic Dr. Who in a format that allows you to affordably collect the entire series (i.e. a season by season collection). Still, the full-season Eccleston set is a good start. Can't wait for that to get released here!

I'm a little bummed to hear that Billie Piper is leaving. I know plenty of the people in this thread don't like her, but I thought she was a good counterpart to the doctor. Particularly this season, where their comraderie has really been kicked up a notch. Now they seem like old buddies cruising around the universe and getting into trouble, and I really find that appealing.

And her attempts to get Queen Elizabeth to say "we are not amused" in Tooth and Claw is still a highlight of this season for me.

[Mathew]

There's Doctor Who: The Beginning Box Set, which collects all the episodes from 1963, well the episodes that weren't deleted (3 discs).
Other than that there's the Key to Time Box set which collects a whole season of Tom Baker (6 discs).

[Aratos]

And there's a similar John Pertwee set. With Baker and Petwee readily avaialabe, who cares about the others, eh?

[Mathew]

But really you want a collection that centres on the Daleks, Cybermen, or The Master, rather than "Seasons" that don't really apply to classic Doctor Who.

[Aratos]

"series", not seasons. And yes, they do count: look
In Robot John Pertwee doctor regenerates into Tom baker. New Doctor then has to sort out the problem with the robot, and then they get into the TARDIS, leave and wind up on The ark in sapce, at the end of which they abandon the TARDIS and travel on some beam or otehr to the earth, in time for The Sontaran Experiment. See? Continuity.

[Arcademan]

Correct. Despite the concept of traveling back and forth in time, Doctor Who as an entire series does very well keeping in continuity for the most part. Even though the Doctor's arch-nemesis are the selling points, I want the entire known series eventually ;)

[Mathew]

travel on some beam or otehr to the earth, in time for The Sontaran Experiment. See? Continuity.

I dimly recall both episodes of The Sontaran Experiment, it's only in the following story Genesis of the Daleks, when The Doctor's walking through a field of mist, encounters a Time Lord who then sends him on an errand to kill the Daleks before they can become a galactic threat, and after six episodes he's back on the space station in time to deal with some Cybermen. And on to Scotland to encounter the Loch Ness Monster...

And where does Shada fit into the continuity???

Maybe it's just my memory of the series under John Nathan Turner that has clouded my judgement.

[Aratos]

I have the scripts from that series a-sitting here. It's perfectly continuous.

However, sticking laternative-dimension cyberment with no cyberman-guns, bringing back the daleks despite having obliterated them in a previous episode and sticking them both together is unforgiveable. As is that torchwood nonsense. For one hting, why did htey allow the doctor to cooperate with UNIT if they think all alien technology belongs to them so they can rebuild hte British empire? Which, by the way, sounds like Davies making a political statement. Boo.

[Mathew]

I have almost all of the classic Doctor Who (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_%28Doctor_Who%29) on badly copied VHS, (I'm only missing the one Hartnell episode that was unearthed recently) I find that I can watch any of the stories with Sarah Jane Smith as companion in any order between Terror of the Zygons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror_of_the_Zygons) & The Hand of Fear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hand_of_Fear).

And Russel T. Davies idea of bringing the Cybermen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybermen) & Daleks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daleks) together is rather poor, as is his memory that they have never appeared in the same episode together, seems to rule out The Five Doctor's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Five_Doctors)anniversary special (which premiered in America 2 days before broadcast in the UK). He really should have kept that little gem until the 45th anniversary of the show. So what great villain from The Doctor's pantheon will he re-imagine for next year's show? The Sea Devils (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sea_Devils)? The Ice Warriors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ice_Warriors)?? The Time Meddler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Time_Meddler)???

[emmsiebelle]

I love the new doctor who. david tennant is gonna be my husband yes!! on saturday the last episode of season 2 is on in the uk and I really can't wait!!:p

[shadowmose]

Rose's replacement has been announced and it's Freema Agyeman who will play an different charcter then the one she played in series two. Source (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/news/cult/news/drwho/2006/07/05/33449.shtml)

[Kimmy]

What is it about?

[Aratos]

What's what about?

Oh, and the end of series two was piss-poor. Particular the suggestion that the doctor was about to confess his love for Rose. The doctor doesn't feel such emotions damnit! Oh, and Rose should've been sucked into hell. Much better way of ending it.

[shadowmose]

The second series just started in the states and so far its been okay. I didn't like that the Doctor got so self-rightous with Harriet Jones in the Chirstmas special when she destroyed the alien ship. The Doctor was mad that they were retreating but the Sycorax leader gave an oath to leave but as soon the Doctor turns his back, the leader luges at him. The other Sycorax wouldn't have just left Earth alone either. Was Torchwood ever mentioned in the first series? In the werewolf ep. the wolf gets in the queen but why does the Doctor leave it inside her?

[Emixpearl]

Apparently, according to my extremely obsessed little brother, Torchwood hasn't been mentioned in the 1st series. I wonder if it has though... I mean they usually drop little hints in here or there.

Anyway, I love Doctor Who, and I can't wait for the new series!!!! I'm also looking forward to Torchwood (A spin-off series with Captain Jack as the main character)!!! :D

[Aratos]

No torchwood was not mentioned in the _prevous series_ (quit calling it the first series people! I clearly remember the first umpteen series'!) It just gets mentioned in every single episode of the first tennant series, in ridiculous places so that it turns into a stupid joke.

[Arcademan]

(quit calling it the first series people! I clearly remember the first umpteen series'!)

Indeed. The first series started in November 1963 and starred William Hartnell as The Doctor :)

[shadowmose]

Indeed. The first series started in November 1963 and starred William Hartnell as The Doctor :)

I know that and I meant the first series in the modern revival.

[Aratos]

You mean the modern heresy?

Used to be we never referred to them by series, we referred to them by story arc and Doctor. Admitably it used to be they had multiple episodes for each plot and thus it had suspence, but still...

[sarazuki]

I loooooved the old series with Tom Baker. What did you think of the new one? My family never gets cable(tear*)

I looove Doctor Who!!!!!!!!!

[binaryzero]

it looks like Torchwood is going to be pretty gory.
and anyone notice the half cyberconverted woman in the trailers?

i don't mind the newer seasons of Doctor Who, the show as a whole has changed quite a bit since the beginning. look at the sharp difference in tone from the 3rd to the 6th doc for example.

i feel supremely geeky by admitting i own almost every episode that's availible of the series, right down to reconstructions of the missing episodes.
i'm only missing one season of Pertwee and one season of Davison.

[shadowmose]

Bump since the new season of the Doctor is finally being shown tonight on American TV. I was shocked to learn that Jack is the Face of Boe in the finale of this season. Is anyone that glad that the next season is RTD's last season? I hope that'll stop the female companions always falling in love with the doctor.

[Aratos]

Psst. That spoiler's, like, a throaway comment right at the very end.

Oh, and the series finale: huge dissapointment. Killed off my favourite charecter. Bastards. Didn't even give him a beard.

on the plus side that Martha idiot only stayed for one sries. I hate her so.

[Aratos]

*bump*

Martha will be returning part way through the next series. And the doctors new companion will be none other than whatserface. From the runaway bride. Played by that obnoxious "comedian" who I can't stand.

Looks like no more doctor who for me. (T__T)

[shadowmose]

So the rumors about it being man were confirmed false? If the bride starts develop feelings for the doctor, then I might drop the series as well.

What did everybody think about the Daleks in New York? I thought it was okay but I think Dalek Sec developed humanity way too quickly. At first, I thought they came up with the hybrid so the producers wouldn't have to ask the creator guy of the Daleks permission for their use. I guess I'm wrong since Dalek Caan got away.

[leatherrebel]

i kinda didn't like that episdode that much, i couldn't stop laughing through it, the hybrid dalek looked kinda weird.
i did think the finally was a bit of a flop especially seeing the doctor heavy crying, just didnt seem right.

[Aratos]

Daleks in new york? i thought it we pretty brilliant tbh. Reminiscient of some of the older dalek series.