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DescentfromOblivion
04-01-2006, 08:44 PM
is there a REAL difference between intuos3 or graphire4?

the programes i plan on using is PS, Painter IX, OC

crispy
04-01-2006, 08:58 PM
The intuous has more pressure sensitivity.

However -- I don't use those programs. :x I have a plain 6x8 Graphire 3 and it works just fine for me. (Though, if I had the money, I'd upgrade, just because the intuous looks more impressive)

ouch
04-02-2006, 12:11 AM
I think it depends. If you are a beginner, it didn't really matter. But if you're experience with real paint, the tilt funtion of Intuos would make you feel paint with a real brush. The brush engine work great with Painter. In Photoshop, you will need some tweaking to make it work out.

graphire didn't come with tilt function.

Here is the example of Intuos with tilt and no tilt different:
http://www.pencilkiller.com/pic/tilt.jpg

crispy
04-02-2006, 09:14 AM
I think it depends. If you are a beginner, it didn't really matter. But if you're experience with real paint, the tilt funtion of Intuos would make you feel paint with a real brush. The brush engine work great with Painter. In Photoshop, you will need some tweaking to make it work out.

graphire didn't come with tilt function.

Here is the example of Intuos with tilt and no tilt different:
http://www.pencilkiller.com/pic/tilt.jpg


OH WOW! I didn't know the inutous had TILT!

Sheesh -- I really want one , but I totally lack the funds.

MazokuOni
04-02-2006, 02:57 PM
OH WOW! I didn't know the inutous had TILT!

Sheesh -- I really want one , but I totally lack the funds.

Dang, I didn't know it had tilt either XD; My tablet is so old the idea of tilt would probably kill it, lol.

Klawzie
04-02-2006, 03:56 PM
Well, that settles what tablet I'm getting for my birthday. :3 In August... ;p

SweetNymph
04-04-2006, 12:02 AM
What size tablet would be best for toning? Or rather, what's the absolute minimum would you (whoever cares to answer) recommend?

ouch
04-04-2006, 12:46 AM
I would say 6 x 8 (6 x 11 if you got...widescreen monitor?)...anything bigger than that tired you hand easily.
I heard some people doing fine with a 4 x 5, if you don't mind to zoom in/out a lot...it's all personal choice. But if you also doing a lot of painting, 6 x 8 will working better for applying longer brush stroke.

SweetNymph
04-04-2006, 07:46 PM
What's the difference between an Intuos 2 and an Intuos 3? Would it make a large difference in drawing/toning?

ouch
04-05-2006, 01:44 AM
The only different between intuos 2 and intuos 3 is...intuos 3 has the new design. It got some shortcut buttom on the tablet which you can assign from the wacom setup. The grip pen come with intuos 3 is also thinner and lighter than intuos 2. I played around both intous 2 and 3 when I did the demo for MS at WonderCon. Well, I don't really can tell the different between those two, expect the grip pen. Since I used to my intuos 2, I do like the bigger pen of it. If you are new to tablet...I guess it didn't really matter.

Wacom is bulid to last....unless you treat that as food tray, tae kwondo kick board..or throw it into water, I don't think it will break. My intuos 2 is refurbished, and I already used it more than 3 years...still work as new.

sonia
04-05-2006, 03:22 AM
I have an A5 intuos3, and I find the programmable shortcut buttons on the side to be very helpful. Also, a lot more tools work with an intuos - there are a few other pens/airbrushes as extras. You can change the tips of your pen to get a different feel/spring.

Pressure sensitivity is a great thing for line weight ^_^

Although, a graphire is usually perfectly good for the purposes of black & white manga stuff, the intuous give you added control for colour work and softer, realistic shading.

Depends on your budget! Wacom recommends that art students and serious hobbyists use graphires, and that pro artists/designers use intuos.

yummyberrikixx
04-07-2006, 10:21 AM
*pokes her graphire and tablet*
So graphire is actually more difficult to use?

Klawzie
04-07-2006, 01:26 PM
Graphires just are more limited, I doubt they're more difficult. :)

SweetNymph
04-07-2006, 06:55 PM
I have an A5 intuos3, and I find the programmable shortcut buttons on the side to be very helpful. Also, a lot more tools work with an intuos - there are a few other pens/airbrushes as extras. You can change the tips of your pen to get a different feel/spring.

Pressure sensitivity is a great thing for line weight ^_^

Although, a graphire is usually perfectly good for the purposes of black & white manga stuff, the intuous give you added control for colour work and softer, realistic shading.

Depends on your budget! Wacom recommends that art students and serious hobbyists use graphires, and that pro artists/designers use intuos.

A5? What's that in American? 4x5?

SkullKihd
04-07-2006, 06:56 PM
whats the best tablet and how much?

yummyberrikixx
04-08-2006, 08:16 AM
Graphires just are more limited, I doubt they're more difficult. :)
Okay but since Graphire doesn't have the 'tilt' ability and such I still have no idea on how to shade and do other things. Are there any good tutorials?

Klawzie
04-08-2006, 04:05 PM
I have a Graphire (no tilt function!) and I can still shade. o.o I think the tilt feature is just a neat airbrush-like tool. It doesn't prevent you from shading anything.

There are many tutorials on how to shade out there. Google is your friend!

Strangechilde
04-08-2006, 04:57 PM
You can get around the limitations of the Graphire by being clever with your software, whatever it is. You might, say, do a shade using a layer mask gradient in Photoshop, or some such. People with a lot of experience with real media may be disappointed by the Graphire, though. It's a nice little tablet, but it's limited.

It is, as above mentioned, not far off indestructible. Mine has been whacked, dropped, thumped, shoved into bookshelves, had wine spilled all over it... little thing just works! The only thing that's managed to break it has been my Alsatian/Malamute cross dog, who, as a puppy, had a thing for chewing the pens. ;)

yummyberrikixx
04-08-2006, 09:38 PM
oh! okay because my parents were the ones that bought the MAC computer for me with the wacom tablet. thank you!

nack8
06-03-2007, 01:38 PM
Hi, I have a graphire 4 but i cant seem to get my pressure sensitivity to work on my new computer. can someone please help me??