Grab your torch and pitchfork, it's RAP!!!! [Archive]

Kitsune3

03-27-2006, 08:58 PM

Okay, i know that rap and hip hop are not the most popular of music genres but i think that it has at least two fans in each country.

but to my main question, has anyone found any j-rap or
j-hip-hop? i can find rappers that happen to be japanese but not rap in japanese.:mad:

Side question/spam: did ya ever notice that in some j-pop songs there would be some random phrase in english? i've noticed it more in anime theme songs.

Dipskana

03-27-2006, 09:18 PM

Bur-hey. (You'll need to register)

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=36086
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=50863
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=83000

Browse through that and make of it what you will. I have a tendency to avoid the more cliche-titled stuff, but some of it is darned good...not that I can understand most of the Japanese used in the songs.

Holy Dragon Sword

03-27-2006, 09:21 PM

J-Rap tends to make me laugh in a most "I'm a terrible, TERRIBLE person" kinda way. It's the equivalent of kids thinking being called an Otaku/Jap* is a thing of honor.

*<-That word, for those who don't know, is...a bit of a racist slur.

Side note: random english is a popular thing. Similar to how The Clash used spanish in "Should I Stay or Should I Go".

Dipskana

03-27-2006, 09:23 PM

J-Rap tends to make me laugh in a most "I'm a terrible, TERRIBLE person" kinda way. It's the equivalent of kids thinking being called an Otaku/Jap* is a thing of honor.

Please explain.

Holy Dragon Sword

03-27-2006, 09:31 PM

Because for some reason, it amuses me? I never said it was lesser than or shouldn't exist, for notes. It's unusual.

Iblis

03-27-2006, 09:44 PM

Rip Slyme is my favorite J-hip hop kinda group. I believe they're known in the anime fandom for doing the OP to Gantz called "Super Shooter". They're a lot more "funk" than the mainstream American style of rap, with fun lyrics and songs. Recommended songs are GALAXY (http://rokettobaibii.net/av/lj/ripslyme-galaxy.mp3), Stepper's Delight (http://rokettobaibii.net/av/lj/ripslyme-steppers.mp3), Rakuen Baby (http://rokettobaibii.net/av/lj/ripslyme-rakuen.mp3) and Funkastic (http://rokettobaibii.net/av/lj/ripslyme-funkastic.mp3). Recommended albums are Time To Go, Masterpiece and Tokyo Classic.

EXILE is another (pretty) enjoyable group, though their music is a lot more R&B influenced.

Pomander

03-28-2006, 12:45 AM

I agree with the above posting regarding Rip Slyme.

Another group I would recommend is M-flo, though their songs vary from hip-hop to R&B, etcetera, and often contain English. I've also found myself enjoying the J-rap/hip-hop group Back Drop Bomb, their remixes in particular.

Mushee

08-05-2006, 12:09 AM

Rap and Hip pop are very popular....unless your taling about Japanese rap and hip pop....

AnimeDudde

08-05-2006, 11:54 AM

Rap and Hip pop are very popular....unless your taling about Japanese rap and hip pop....

Exactly... 2 fans in each country? More like 2 million+ o_O; Anyway, I think I heard a japanese rap song once, or chinese I dunno, and it was indeed funny. I dunno, like holy dragon sword said, it makes me laugh :P

drawr2

08-05-2006, 04:31 PM

did you seiroulsy have to say get your torch and pitchfork? respect other people who like rap, and just deal if it isint as pouplar in another palce.

kairi990

08-05-2006, 08:47 PM

There's nothing wrong with J-Rap/Hip-hop.
I listen to it, and I find that it is much better than the american crap that is released in this country. Most of the artists I listen to don't even talk about that guns,money, and hoes junk; they stay true to the music, and that's what I like about them.

TonightMidnight

08-05-2006, 10:16 PM

*Puts down torch and pitchfork* Man. You got me all worked up for nothing? I happen to like rap. And J-Rap/Hip-Hop too. It's refreshing.

feder

08-06-2006, 02:24 PM

Um...I can think of some j-pop singers who rap and do hip hop in English AND Japanese, but not just
English.

M-flo, for example, and also Home Made Kazoku. Rip Slyme is pretty good too.

tomselleck69

08-13-2006, 01:46 AM

Side note: random english is a popular thing. Similar to how The Clash used spanish in "Should I Stay or Should I Go".
that's not similar at all.

also, OH MAN AMERICAN RAPPERS ONLY TALK ABOUT CARS AND MURDER AND DIAMONDS AND GIRLS, THAT'S SO LAME---WOW THERE ARE RAPPERS IN JAPAN???? WOW I'LL BET THEY RAP ABOUT ANIME AND BEING SAMURAIS AND THE TALE OF GENJI AND JUNK (AND PROBABLY NOT ABOUT THE SAME THINGS AS MOST POPULAR AMERICAN RAPPERS EXCEPT IN A LANGUAGE I DON'T UNDERSTAND--THEY GET THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT BECAUSE JAPANESE PEOPLE ARE BETTER AT EVERYTHING!)

WHOA JAPANESE HIP-HOP, THATS SO AWESOME THAT I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO CHECK AND SEE IF THERE'S A GIGANTIC AMERICAN UNDERGROUND HIP-HOP SCENE BRIMMING WITH INTELLIGENT, ARTICULATE, CREATIVE ARTISTS, BECAUSE THERE PROBABLY ISN'T!

klade

08-13-2006, 06:43 AM

oh cmon...grab ur torch and pitch fork????thats disrespectful to ppl hu like rap..like me....i think of rap as a lifestyle...i mean most rappers these days talk bout a lot of stuff tht we have to change....

iBaa

08-13-2006, 10:54 AM

Usually I hate rap (especially American rap) but I really do like Dragon Ash (Japanese) and King Ly Chee (they're Chinese....I do believe). LMF is another rap group, but I don't like them as much. I guess I lean towards hip-hop when it comes to rap.

Suranime12345

08-13-2006, 08:14 PM

I like Kelis and Missy Elliot. That is all. o_0

TonightMidnight

08-14-2006, 10:58 AM

that's not similar at all.

also, OH MAN AMERICAN RAPPERS ONLY TALK ABOUT CARS AND MURDER AND DIAMONDS AND GIRLS, THAT'S SO LAME---WOW THERE ARE RAPPERS IN JAPAN???? WOW I'LL BET THEY RAP ABOUT ANIME AND BEING SAMURAIS AND THE TALE OF GENJI AND JUNK (AND PROBABLY NOT ABOUT THE SAME THINGS AS MOST POPULAR AMERICAN RAPPERS EXCEPT IN A LANGUAGE I DON'T UNDERSTAND--THEY GET THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT BECAUSE JAPANESE PEOPLE ARE BETTER AT EVERYTHING!)

WHOA JAPANESE HIP-HOP, THATS SO AWESOME THAT I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO CHECK AND SEE IF THERE'S A GIGANTIC AMERICAN UNDERGROUND HIP-HOP SCENE BRIMMING WITH INTELLIGENT, ARTICULATE, CREATIVE ARTISTS, BECAUSE THERE PROBABLY ISN'T!

My reaction is a cross between "woah..." and xD!

I don't know why people think and say "Japan does it better." I mean their rap tends to not revolve around sex,drugs...etc as much, but it's still there. And you're right, there are some pretty talented American rappers out there who have got more to talk about than "being drug-dealers" and "growing up on the block."

kairi990

08-14-2006, 12:22 PM

Nekochii

08-14-2006, 12:45 PM

I've heard some Japansese rap. A lot of it sounds like what Americans use to listen to in the 80's and early 90's. Rap and hip-hop are new to Japan so they're kind of behind America in that department. Be proud of your music America, cause if theirs anything worse than American or Japanese rap, it's Canadian rap or worse, Canadian French rap. o.0

tomselleck69

08-14-2006, 01:23 PM

I don't know why people think and say "Japan does it better." I mean their rap tends to not revolve around sex,drugs...etc as much, but it's still there. And you're right, there are some pretty talented American rappers out there who have got more to talk about than "being drug-dealers" and "growing up on the block."
true, true, but a good rapper can make a song about dealing thoughtful and compelling. ex. although i don't particularly like him, immortal technique is one undeniably talented artist who is bridging that gap.

I don't even know what to say....

haha, the yelling wasn't directed at you. just a big injustance towards american rap i see everywhere. although looking upwards your post does seem to fit some of the criterion... we'll call it even if you promise to listen to enter the wu-tang (36 chambers.) :cool:

TonightMidnight

08-14-2006, 06:43 PM

true, true, but a good rapper can make a song about dealing thoughtful and compelling. ex. although i don't particularly like him, immortal technique is one undeniably talented artist who is bridging that gap.

Yeah. A good rapper can make a song about dealing good. But I've heard it all before no matter how it's said or if there's a good beat behind it. I wanna hear a new story.

For example: Lupe Fiasco's "Kick Push." It has a beautiful beat and tells a great story of loving to skateboard, how the character in the song first started...not to mention it flowed gracefully, it all made sense. And there were NO curses. NO curses at all and it was still a great song. I hardly see any of that in rap.

kairi990

08-15-2006, 12:23 AM

haha, the yelling wasn't directed at you. just a big injustance towards american rap i see everywhere. although looking upwards your post does seem to fit some of the criterion... we'll call it even if you promise to listen to enter the wu-tang (36 chambers.) :cool:

I would take you up on that offer (though I think I've heard the song before), but I'm on an american music boycott. Nothing but foreign music for me.
But if wu-tang ever decided to rap in arabic, hindi, or any other foriegn language, I would gladly take a re-listen! :)

Just for the record: My bias is against mainstream american rap (if you can even call it rap anymore), not against underground.
Underground (in any musical genre) has, and will always be better than mainstream.

klade

08-15-2006, 03:44 PM

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TonightMidnight

08-16-2006, 04:42 PM

I would take you up on that offer (though I think I've heard the song before), but I'm on an american music boycott. Nothing but foreign music for me.
But if wu-tang ever decided to rap in arabic, hindi, or any other foriegn language, I would gladly take a re-listen! :)

Just for the record: My bias is against mainstream american rap (if you can even call it rap anymore), not against underground.
Underground (in any musical genre) has, and will always be better than mainstream.

I understand what you guys mean about Underground music being good and more original than mainstream. But I don't understand why everyone's all like "Mainstream music is mind control! It's from the devil! If any artist gets more than a certain amount of fans...they're mainstream so therefore they suck."

That's everyones attitude toward mainstream. Underground is original, but mainstream isn't always bad. There are some really good mainstream artists out there who do their own thing, and write their own lyrics. Don't generalize.

tomselleck69

08-16-2006, 06:20 PM

mainstream, underground, good and bad are never mutually exclusive. there is no shortage of both mainstream artists who write great songs and underground arists who write awful songs.

come to think of it, there are more alot underground bands i dislike than mainstream bands i dislike.

Nekochii

08-16-2006, 07:03 PM

klade

08-17-2006, 03:58 PM

Oh yh....the first message on this forum...2 fans on each country?!?!?....more like millions..especially in towns and cities and stuff like compton,new york,cleveland and stuff......tht has a lot of hiphop fans..

animevampire99

08-17-2006, 04:26 PM

There's nothing wrong with that and I wish these damn conservatives would just get of their case. You don't like it then turn off the radio, it's that simple.
If it wasn't for us "damn" conservatives, those has been wanna bees wouldn't have a radio station to play their music. The whole pitchfork thing is a joke, don't go all angry mob on him. Most people I know who like anime dislike rap very much so it is a common generalization. Also, who cates if they grew up on the streets? So have a bagillion other people, who all have the same story. We understand you got shot, boo hoo, go cry a river. Just messing with you guys ^_^ ;
Anyways, this thread was about good japanese rap artists, not for ya'll to argue about american rap. I am sure their is a thread for that. If there isn't, create one!

Nekochii

08-17-2006, 04:46 PM

The whole pitchfork thing is a joke, don't go all angry mob on him.
I know he was only joking. :o

I'm not complaining about anyone on this thread since I'm not a big fan of rap music either. What bothers me is that the people who want to take away rap and hip-hop are the same people who want to take away our violent video games, television shows, movies, and edit the crap out of our beloved anime just because it's not suitable for children or something stupid like that.

TonightMidnight

08-17-2006, 09:56 PM

I think one reason why American rappers make music about gangs, drugs, violence, poverty, ect. is becuase a majority of them have lived in areas where that sort of activety is common and so they make music about what they know and have lived through. There's nothing wrong with that and I wish these damn conservatives would just get of their case. You don't like it then turn off the radio, it's that simple.

Um...and you don't think other countries have bad areas like that? There are ghettos and bad neighborhoods in other countries that are so terrible they make bad areas and places in the U.S. look like the Hamptons.

I bet if these rappers who had a "so-called bad life" took a trip to Africa or some places in Asia and Europe...then they would quit their whining. And yes, that's what I call it- whining.

Rapping is like telling a story. And what happens when you hear the same story over and over again? You get tired of it.

klade

08-18-2006, 06:43 PM

Um...and you don't think other countries have bad areas like that? There are ghettos and bad neighborhoods in other countries that are so terrible they make bad areas and places in the U.S. look like the Hamptons.

I bet if these rappers who had a "so-called bad life" took a trip to Africa or some places in Asia and Europe...then they would quit their whining. And yes, that's what I call it- whining.

Rapping is like telling a story. And what happens when you hear the same story over and over again? You get tired of it.

okay...look........you're right about other places havin bad neighborhoods too and stuff,but have ya herad the raps here in UK??....i mean,u cnt even understand them,no rythm,no style,and bad beats(i mean really bad)

tomselleck69

08-18-2006, 06:52 PM

grime is way more accessible than j-rap.

TonightMidnight

08-18-2006, 08:47 PM

okay...look........you're right about other places havin bad neighborhoods too and stuff,but have ya herad the raps here in UK??....i mean,u cnt even understand them,no rythm,no style,and bad beats(i mean really bad)

I've never heard rap in the UK, but the way you're describing it...it sounds pretty bad. I won't knock it until I've heard some though.

grime is way more accessible than j-rap.

There's nothing wrong with J-Rap. Some artists are terrible, but some are good. But I guess it's your opinion.

tomselleck69

08-19-2006, 03:17 AM

TonightMidnight

08-21-2006, 05:39 PM

accessible does not mean good or bad. i meant that it's probably easier for most people to get into. the amount of good and bad artists in american, british, japanese and all other nationalities of rap is probably in fairly close proportion.

You are completely right.

But it seems like J-Pop/J-Rap...etc... is easier to get into when you're a big anime/manga fan.