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SweetNymph
03-25-2006, 11:40 PM
I've noticed in almost every manga I've read where there is a sort of behind-the-scenes comic (Van Von Hunter) or letter to the readers (Dramacon) that is seems like most artists think they suck even though they are fabulously incredible.

So... Published Artists, how bad do you suck?

And Amateurs, how fast can you convince them of the truth? ;)

rivkah
03-26-2006, 12:04 AM
*lol* That's a trick question because any of us who honestly answer it are going to look like we just want our ego stoked. :P

But thank you. It's a very sweet sentiment. :)

crispy
03-26-2006, 12:13 AM
I'll stroke your ego any day, Rivkah ;)

YamPuff
03-26-2006, 12:14 AM
I always think my art sucks. In all honesty.

When its good, I'll admit it, but I usually hate my work once I've finished it and think it came out below par. Even when I do love a pic I stare at the eyes until I convince myself they really are crooked and then freak. ~sigh~~

But that is the best way to be ~stroke ego, stroke ego~~ego purrrrsss~~ because it leads to constant improvement.

JayneCobb
03-26-2006, 12:24 AM
hahaha why does crispy get all the fun? :(

KaYoKitten
03-26-2006, 01:04 AM
XD XD Okay, if I ever get published, I'm gonna be one of those people. *raises hand meekly* I actually one first prize at an art show. When they interviewed me, I said, and I quote: "I'm such a horrible artist, this isn't even that good! I know I can do better, but look, look, see, the dolphin looks horrible here, and the lighting's off here, and..." And people always try and go NOOOO, UK, stop putting yourself down! O_o I'm not, I'm just stating fact: I'm not that great. I quote someone whose name I've forgotten: "There are always one hundred artists better than you, and one hundred artists worse than you." Question is, are you going to stop drawing, stop doing what you do just because you think you suck but everyone else wants you to keep on going? No! A thousand times, no. So I'll keep drawing and keep hating my finished projects while everyone else goes "ooh" and "ahh". ^^;

Loverofpiggies
03-26-2006, 09:11 AM
Dude I HATE that! DX They always make it seem that I'm such an AMAZING ARTIST. All over school, people are constantly "OMFG JOO ART IZ SOO GUUD!"

NO ITS NOT!! DX My anatomy is off, I cant do good folds in clothes, my faces, being the best feature I'm good at on the body, even has problems with it. Prospective is hard for me, and, trying as I might, I suck at backgrounds! DX

I admit though, comapred to a few artists in my school I'm really good. But I dont like hearing about that. In fact one of my friends always says "OMFG BIGGEST FAN YOUR ART IS AMAZIN!" Like everyday. I really WISH SHE WOULD STOP SAYING THAT! I need critique, BAD, if I'm going to be good enough for tokyopop before my senior year. (next year)

But to answer your question, artists tend to find thier problems in thier own work. The artist is the best critique. They will see things in thier art none of the rest of us could even spot with a microscope. any artist would know that.

beanclam
03-26-2006, 09:58 AM
So... Published Artists, how bad do you suck?

Man, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm friggin' -awesome.-

...

XD

Rem Akimichi
03-26-2006, 01:32 PM
*laughs* Well, I think the better you get, the more you hate your own stuff.

I remember being 13 and thinking my art was better than Da Vince's art. Now? Oh man, not a day goes by when I don't have at least one thought about burning my sketchbook. Thank God I don't have a fire place ^_~

And I'm not even that good, so I can't imagine how much you must hate your stuff when you're good enough to be published XD But someone must think you're good, or else you wouldn't be having this conversation ^__^

Elae
03-26-2006, 02:24 PM
*laughs* Well, I think the better you get, the more you hate your own stuff.

I remember being 13 and thinking my art was better than Da Vince's art. Now? Oh man, not a day goes by when I don't have at least one thought about burning my sketchbook. Thank God I don't have a fire place ^_~

And I'm not even that good, so I can't imagine how much you must hate your stuff when you're good enough to be published XD But someone must think you're good, or else you wouldn't be having this conversation ^__^

I don't think that's at all necessarily true... As time passes you tend to mature and your feelings toward your art mature as well- you get past the "omg I can't do anything!" stage; there's very little productive there. You ultimately have to have some sort of respect for your work, and recognize that you will -always- have room for improvement, so why bother constantly constantly getting yourself down about it? I'm not saying that cocky is good- but none of these artists would be where they are if they didn't have at least some confidence in their work. But many of them are constantly striving to improve, rather than be content with where they are.

It's all about still retaining a sense of humility... which some people who've replied so far could use. ;3 No matter if you end your post saying how much you suck, if you go out of your way to mention how many people love it/how many prizes you've won, I'd still count that as bragging~... heh.

J. Stoncius
03-26-2006, 02:42 PM
I'm happy with how some things I do turn out...but I know I could use a lot of work on other things. I'm not at the level I'd like to be yet, and honestly, I'm not sure that this level exists or is achievable...but I'll do everything within my power to GET there, whether the going is slow, fast, or, uh, ridiculous.

I wouldn't be doing this if I thought it was a worthless pursuit or if I were extra crappy at it. There are about a zillion other avenues I could have taken, and I'm sticking with this one, no matter how many people scream at me to stop...ultimately, I'm the only one who gets to tell me when to quit, and as stubborn as I am, don't think it's going to happen.

No matter if you end your post saying how much you suck, if you go out of your way to mention how many people love it/how many prizes you've won, I'd still count that as bragging~... heh.

I agree. These seem like rather shady intentions to me. Also, if people tell you that you rock, that doesn't necessarily mean that you do. My parents and friends always told me I rocked as an artist as I was growing up. Guess what? I didn't, and hearing it all the time stunted my artistic growth. They only told me that to encourage me, but it kind of did more harm than good because it was coloring my perception of how I measured up. Take any and all compliments with a grain of salt, especially from anybody you know personally.

JayneCobb
03-26-2006, 11:00 PM
I gotta agree with elae and stonicus with this one. If you go out of your way to mention 2x more how many people say they love it...that's sorta like bragging.

Anywho there's always room for everybody to improve, so ... *munches on cookies*

Samekh Mem
03-26-2006, 11:44 PM
I think people should be proud of their art - but still be realistic about it, and keep that head size under control! ~_^

Generally, I like my art, but then I see someone awesome.. and get JEALOUS. And the cycle of improvement continues!

JayneCobb
03-26-2006, 11:53 PM
I think people should be proud of their art - but still be realistic about it, and keep that head size under control! ~_^


hehe well said XP
but the problem is, is that some are extra proud of their art...cuz they really don't see anything wrong with it what-so-ever. and that's a shame, cuz it could be years until realization sinks in and they gotta get goin' improving DX

KaYoKitten
03-27-2006, 12:26 AM
T__T I'm sorry that I sounded boastful by telling you what other people said...I don't mean to, really! I a bad person...T__T

JayneCobb
03-27-2006, 12:46 AM
er don't say that, ur not a bad person -_-" unless you've eaten that missing turkey leg in my fridge ...

KaYoKitten
03-27-2006, 01:28 AM
er don't say that, ur not a bad person -_-" unless you've eaten that missing turkey leg in my fridge ...

As I live approximately 1000 miles away from you, I highly doubt I ate it. :D But I do apologize for sounding boastful, I didn't mean to be that way. I'm such a bad artist...T_T I force my art on everyone just so they can see how bad I am and then they say it's good...for some reason, I feel my art is even worse than bad when people say that to me. :confused:

sonia
03-27-2006, 02:30 AM
Heehee, I know I don't suck. My pin ups need a bit of polish, I wish I could do things to a level I am happy with - alot quicker. There are other pro illustrators out there who are not as good as me, but that said, I know I'm not the best out there either.

It's about maintaining a sense of proportion (of the scale of how good your art is, not your anatomy issues XD). I don't lose faith in myself. I try to absorb techniques from any page/pin up that makes me go "Wow, that's gorgeous!" and I can always spot the potential for improvement in almost all artwork, regardless of how amazing it is (obviously, I may have trouble reproducing that finish myself XD). It reassures you that all artists are improving at their own pace.

And I am happy to receive critique from the people who can really give an informed opinion - fellow artists, clients, editors, publishers. ^_^ It's difficult to get a realistic assessment of your work from a friend or family member, simply because they may not have been exposed to the variety and high standards out there.

Pedes
03-27-2006, 05:37 AM
I gotta agree with elae and stonicus with this one. If you go out of your way to mention 2x more how many people say they love it...that's sorta like bragging.

Anywho there's always room for everybody to improve, so ... *munches on cookies*
You should improve your gallery, because... there's only one image in there!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD But I like this one :D

Tentopet
03-27-2006, 08:53 AM
Hey, I'll be the first to admit that I still overestimate my abilities. Sometimes I feel downright conceited. And that's what makes it so that other times I feel like I suck so much it's the end of the world. Once I realize I'm not as good as I thought I was, I drop to the other side of the spectrum. I hope it's just a product of inexperience and will stabilize someday.

Like my RSOM entry--while I was making it, I thought there was NO WAY I wouldn't get first place, much less get in the book. I was surprised to be a runner-up. I was surprised when I bought the book that people said I had issues with my hands. And now, I see it and realize I was super lucky it even made it. And those hands...those hands...

That reminds me constantly that I have no clue how good/bad I am. But I still forget sometimes, get bigheaded, and then get that big sink in my stomach once I realize I'm not as good as I thought I was. Argh.

JayneCobb
03-27-2006, 01:30 PM
o lol my stuff's in scraps, and i have other stuff floating about. I don't update much cuz...i haven't really drawn lately =\

Ganter
03-27-2006, 03:04 PM
hehe~ if I thought I sucked I wouldn't have a website! And I wouldn't have tried to get published, for that matter. There's lots I still need to work on, but I try to keep it balanced. Basically, I struggle to be honest with myself with the good and bad.

rivkah
03-27-2006, 03:09 PM
Hey, I'll be the first to admit that I still overestimate my abilities. Sometimes I feel downright conceited. And that's what makes it so that other times I feel like I suck so much it's the end of the world. Once I realize I'm not as good as I thought I was, I drop to the other side of the spectrum. I hope it's just a product of inexperience and will stabilize someday.

I promise, it does. :) I used to be really conceited about my art, too; I knew there was room for improvement, but for some reason I still thought it was better than everybody else's. -_-; Then I'd swing from one end of the spectrum--loving my art--to the other--hating it. From extreme conceite to downright humility and embarassment.

When that book hit shelves, though, that all changed. Personally, I feel much more mellow now. While I feel more confident about my art, I'm no longer conceited about it. I don't swing so much between love and hate and instead linger in contentment: happy at the level I am but constantly wanting and seeking improvement. I know when my art's improved, but I don't realize how much until I compare it to something older.

It's those one or two negative reviews that do it--and they're totally inevitable now matter HOW polished your work is. They're painful, but they make you distance yourself from what other people think and instead force you to focus inward. My first bad review was the best thing that ever happened to me.

And honestly, the only person who can make me feel good about my work is my editor . . . who is THE most difficult person to get compliments from. No ego-stoking from THAT source. I think I'd actually lose my respect for him if he were nice to me. ;P

Jasper Cornelius
03-27-2006, 03:13 PM
It's a thing that all artists struggle with. I think that my own work sucks compared to the professionals, but I know I'm far above the beginner level. Hang on to everything you draw and you'll be able to see how far you've come. The way I draw now is far different than my work 9 years ago (when I started keeping record), somewhat different than what I've done 5 years ago, and only slightly different than what I've done last year. Of course you'll have to go through the humbling experience of getting critiqued by one of your heroes before you really improve, that's what cons are for, young'uns.

Tentopet
03-27-2006, 03:46 PM
It's those one or two negative reviews that do it--and they're totally inevitable now matter HOW polished your work is. They're painful, but they make you distance yourself from what other people think and instead force you to focus inward. My first bad review was the best thing that ever happened to me.

And honestly, the only person who can make me feel good about my work is my editor . . . who is THE most difficult person to get compliments from. No ego-stoking from THAT source. I think I'd actually lose my respect for him if he were nice to me. ;P

How I feel about myself is actually quite independent of what others say. I realize I'm not as good as I thought, not through criticisms, but rather because once I've put myself on a new pedestal, I look around and become overwhelmed, realizing I'm not supposed to be there yet. Like an undergrad freshman signing up for an advanced graduate class because they think they're smart. And then the class starts and the freshman realizes he's in way over his head (bad comparison since it can't happen). With criticisms, I either dismiss them because I don't agree, or I get excited because now I have a new thing to improve on. I'm the one who overwhelms myself.

And I was pretty stable for several months, so I don't think I could confidentally say I've mastered this unless I could feel that way for years, ya know?

Argh, end introspection, start work!

Tavisha
03-28-2006, 01:45 AM
Tonight/today(whatever time it is now) is a perfect example of me sucking gigantic monkey chunks. I can't get AJ's profile right. (I hate fighting with my muse~!) Nevermind I've drawn his profile doz. of times before this night. Just sometimes an angle just doesn't "click" into place and I end up erasing, erasing,and erasing more ~and luckily I work in very light blue pencil so its not tearing up my paper or leaving a massive dark smudge. Ggrrrrr~~

But, on the subject....one thing I cannot draw well *at all* is technical drawings like, mecha! How I'd love to~ but sadly my brain wasn't built for engineering all those shiney robot parts and stuff. ^____^**** That said, I barely got through my first big comic jobs which was illustrating issues of Robotech: Aftermath #7,8,9 and Academy Blues issue 2, for Academy Comics back in 1994~95. I'm so glad they took a chance on me and Rikki back when we were complete unknowns~They even gave us our very own story arc called Robotech:Clone for 6 issues. Sometimes its good to take total chances even when you feel deep down you're not completely ready for something. Most likely you'll come out of it with a ton of invaluable experience you may never get another chance to obtain again. One connection leads to another~ Just go for it~! But, darnit, I still never improved much on my mecha skills... **sighs**

*waves out to the fellow OELers* You guys don't suck! Why are you here posting?!~ :::feeds my muse pocky and gets back to the erasing:::

lord_neko_fuffy
03-28-2006, 11:21 AM
Dude I HATE that! DX They always make it seem that I'm such an AMAZING ARTIST. All over school, people are constantly "OMFG JOO ART IZ SOO GUUD!"

NO ITS NOT!! DX My anatomy is off, I cant do good folds in clothes, my faces, being the best feature I'm good at on the body, even has problems with it. Prospective is hard for me, and, trying as I might, I suck at backgrounds! DX

I admit though, comapred to a few artists in my school I'm really good. But I dont like hearing about that. In fact one of my friends always says "OMFG BIGGEST FAN YOUR ART IS AMAZIN!" Like everyday. I really WISH SHE WOULD STOP SAYING THAT! I need critique, BAD, if I'm going to be good enough for tokyopop before my senior year. (next year)

But to answer your question, artists tend to find thier problems in thier own work. The artist is the best critique. They will see things in thier art none of the rest of us could even spot with a microscope. any artist would know that.
i agree with you.
people are always like OMG your sooo good...but i can never get the clothes folds right and it bugs me....i mean i would probally spend most of my time to just get that right. i can't get any charicter to look right with thire back to the audance or even looking over thire shoulder.
i'm best at girls but all my boys look feminie....basiclly i want your productive criism...give me a list of detailed issuses with anything in my work...and i'll be more happy with you then if you gave me a list of prases...

but honestly....isn't it better for the plot and story to be well devoloped then the perspective and chricter to be 100% accuret...(btw you can never be 100% accuret....manag is not a detialed protral)

Verdekurama
04-02-2006, 08:55 AM
My relatives say I'm great, and an art teacher said , my characters are really original, but I stink at hands and feet, Two of my characters look alike, except one is smaller then the other, and my characters all look really stiff.

black_myst
04-05-2006, 02:57 PM
i definatly think that the artist themself is the hardest critic on their art manga or w/e style. in general, i usually hate what i'm drawing even if everyone else loves it. it's just that in a piece of art work, we know our mistakes, and some times we're the only ones that see that. I think it's very hard for an artist to think they're invincible because then it makes it harder for them to see mistakes others see and improve them selves.

kyothekitty
04-05-2006, 03:01 PM
well i know i'm not the best and all but damn i really hate when somebody that can't draw says u suck don't u hate that

Gabycat
04-19-2006, 09:33 AM
I think people should be proud of their art - but still be realistic about it, and keep that head size under control! ~_^

Generally, I like my art, but then I see someone awesome.. and get JEALOUS. And the cycle of improvement continues!

I am of the same opinion!
I might not get "JEALOUS!" but "jealous", which brings forth the will to draw better.
A funny anecdote- but I met this online artist which I literally worship her skills, and one day chatting we give each other our real names- it so happened she was my fan, from my comic stories and such! and I was her fan, too because of her awesome illustrations!
that's how funny it goes sometimes! :D

Pedes
04-19-2006, 11:34 AM
That reminds me constantly that I have no clue how good/bad I am. But I still forget sometimes, get bigheaded, and then get that big sink in my stomach once I realize I'm not as good as I thought I was. Argh.
:D yeah, I think we all know that...
Then again I get days (weeks/months) when I feel I can't draw at all. :(

am of the same opinion!
I might not get "JEALOUS!" but "jealous", which brings forth the will to draw better.
I'm an analitical bitch - I analise the components and see if I can use any of them in my art :) BRoADEN YOUR HORISoNS I say :D

Nekogirl77
04-23-2006, 11:03 AM
People who draw, and aren't proud of their work, are true artists, hehe or at least that's what I think :p I'm not sure if you understand me.. heh, I can't really explain it either. Just a feeling.
I never let people see my work XD, I don't like it when they say it's awsome when I think it's crap. My art teacher is one of the few people that I let see my work, and she never EVER says it's awsome, incredible whatsoever... she just says it's nice. >=3 It pisses me off, but in the very bottom of my heart, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. For me, it means I need to practice even more, much more; it's my goal to impress my art teacher... one day :cool:

T0M0_chan
04-23-2006, 11:14 AM
People who draw, and aren't proud of their work, are true artists, hehe or at least that's what I think :p I'm not sure if you understand me.. heh, I can't really explain it either. Just a feeling.
I never let people see my work XD, I don't like it when they say it's awsome when I think it's crap. My art teacher is one of the few people that I let see my work, and she never EVER says it's awsome, incredible whatsoever... she just says it's nice. >=3 It pisses me off, but in the very bottom of my heart, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. For me, it means I need to practice even more, much more; it's my goal to impress my art teacher... one day :cool:
yeah, I feel the same way.
My parents say my art sucks...{didn't talk to them for approximately 2 hours}
but its ok, they kinda pointed out where I went wrong and I guess I should
thank them for that cuz I got better {at drawing hands:D }

Nekogirl77
04-23-2006, 03:39 PM
yeah, I feel the same way.
My parents say my art sucks...{didn't talk to them for approximately 2 hours}
but its ok, they kinda pointed out where I went wrong and I guess I should
thank them for that cuz I got better {at drawing hands:D }
Hehe that's why I don't show my work to my parents, UNLESS I really really like how it turned out (although I'll think about burning it after a week or so XD) The hands was a big problem for me!! it was so difficult :eek: but now I believe I'm getting better at it. Drawing feet is now my big concern:p

tomselleck69
04-23-2006, 04:31 PM
david choe (http://www.davidchoe.com/) is a smack-talking egomaniac, but he is the first person that comes to mind when i think "true artist."

i think pride is irrelevant to whether someone is a true artist or not. a healthy relationship between self-awareness and the quality of your work is much more important.

knowing which compliments and criticisms you should be listening to is also key. kids who say "OH MY GOD THATS AWESOME" no matter what do not know any better, and probably say so because they themselves cannot draw. you just have to smile, take them with a grain of salt, and find people that are capable of constructive criticism.

Tsuzuki
04-23-2006, 05:40 PM
ive never shown anybody my art......
im a perfectionest and i never think it looks right...
im impressed at people whom decide to show there work, becouse i know i probubly never will.
im not sure if im bad or good at drawing though.....im to much of a perfectionist to admit anything.....

Pedes
04-24-2006, 04:01 AM
ive never shown anybody my art......
im a perfectionest and i never think it looks right...
im impressed at people whom decide to show there work, becouse i know i probubly never will.
im not sure if im bad or good at drawing though.....im to much of a perfectionist to admit anything.....
You should shoe us... Ah, I see the problem here...

I like showing my art to people(read: my friends) because they are often able to do some constructive criticism especially when I have doubts... I have one friend that was even able to tell me "sorry, but this is REALLY below your usual level"...

Tsuzuki
04-24-2006, 04:31 AM
well.........actually im really shy....and a good amount of it is fan-art ....and i really dont want to be judged to the origional creator.
so showing artwork(even the things i think look ok) not high on my to-do list!!
lol

Amecka-Mudd
04-24-2006, 05:29 PM
Hands, feet from he front, guys bodies, and small details. In all of those feilds, I can't draw to save my life. In fact, if I tried drawing those things, my sketchbook would probably come to life and burn itself inorder to rid its pages of my drawings.
Overall, I'm a decent artist. Whenever somebody at school sees my drawings, they asked me if I traced it from somebody else or a book. >.< I HATE that. Then they actually ask me to PROVE that I drew it myself by actually drawing something infront of them. I do a quick doodle and they act all "Omg, you're such a good artist. I could never draw that well. You're so great at drawing. Can I see anything else that you've drawn?"
Of course, we all get a little big-headed sometimes. I'm a show-off, I'll admit. I'll show my friends what I've done, and when somebody leans over my shoulder to see it, I *nonchalantely* pull out my other drawings or *drop* them on the floor so that I can pick them up and show them off. Yeah...I'm a bit concieted when it comes to my art and writing (perfect score on practice english exams! w00t! 280/280! Go me! ^___^)...and someties even singing *coughtonedeafcough*, but I keep it real.
SO......I'm not all that great, and I'm getting better. I found awesome tutorials on Polykarbon (http://www.polykarbon.com) to help me draw hands, feet, clothing, men, the works.
As an example of my progress...
Here's something that I did at the beginning of the school year, in September or October:
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28259352/ :)
And here's something I did just a couple months later, out of the blue.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/29402672/ :D

CDog
04-25-2006, 03:32 PM
I'm pretty critical of my own art; I know that I have talent and all, but I know I'm not up to par with any of the REAL masters. So you know when people say that something of mine is good, I'll kind of agree, but I know there's room for improvement. To me, it's a little uncomfortable to be told that my stuff turned out well because I see my shortcomings, and I also don't want to be all, "Oh, yeah, I know I'm good" because then I'd start thinking I sounded all arrogant and then I'd feel guilty. So, when I say I'm not that great, it's more of an attempt to fend off the impression of being better than others. Then I always have to say "It's not like you couldn't do this too; art is a taught ability".

And you know, it's not a particularly good idea to ask family members for criticism on your art. I mean, these are the same people that thought the crayon drawings you did when you were three were wonderful, when, artistically, they sucked.

Pedes
04-25-2006, 03:50 PM
And you know, it's not a particularly good idea to ask family members for criticism on your art. I mean, these are the same people that thought the crayon drawings you did when you were three were wonderful, when, artistically, they sucked.
Unless they want you too "quit this nonsence" eh? So they become either overcritical "you have no chances of becoming an pro artist whatsoever"(my mom - NOTE: I don't think she considers comics an art!) or ignore...

CDog
04-25-2006, 03:59 PM
Yowch. That's rough, man. Guess I kind of lucked out, having a whole family that loves every kind of art. Although they do seem to think that I am a little on the neurotic side. Just keep at it anyway; you'll always be better off doing what you like.

kyothekitty
04-25-2006, 07:55 PM
oh!crap u have any idea how much i had to read from my last post here damn
any way i still suck even tho all my friend love my art but i know i can get better

Pedes
04-26-2006, 11:03 AM
Yowch. That's rough, man. Guess I kind of lucked out, having a whole family that loves every kind of art. Although they do seem to think that I am a little on the neurotic side. Just keep at it anyway; you'll always be better off doing what you like.
I know :)

kyothekitty
04-26-2006, 01:02 PM
well.........actually im really shy....and a good amount of it is fan-art ....and i really dont want to be judged to the origional creator.
so showing artwork(even the things i think look ok) not high on my to-do list!!
lol
we need some art wonder who is really good??

Tsuzuki
04-27-2006, 05:00 PM
huh?? kyo-sama sometimes when you talk u make absolutly no sence!!!
what are u trying to tell me...or us????????

Jinu
05-02-2006, 02:10 AM
I dont know how many things I have tossed that my friends and or family then takes and goes "why?" "why did you though it away?" Im like cause it frikin sucks the bigest frikin lolypops on the planet. and there like " no it don't its realy gooood." ¬_¬ ::sigh:: or I would stop working on something because it is going bad and they would ask me why I stoped and then say that I should finnish it anyways. why finnish something that you know is screwed up?
why save something that sucks all means of suckness?

Because others think its good. And I guess that means that the Artist does not know what is realy good or not, and or is extreamly modest.

Judgeing my own work makes me feel wierd. And if I say its a great pice then that would make it seam as though I am sure of myself wouldn't it?

when it comes to boosting ego i am best at boosting others ego not my own I guess.

Sango28
05-13-2006, 06:53 PM
I'm still practicing on drawing anime characters. I draw one of Daisuke from D.N. Angel and it came out pretty good. Too bad I don't have a scanner to show it -_- That was the best fan art I've ever draw in my life! o_0 (I drawed Daisuke from the front cover of volume 6 D.N.Angel lolz )

My art is..bad. Yup, I don't draw the eyes good at all. I have trouble with the eyes man! >.<

YamPuff
05-14-2006, 04:01 AM
I dont know how many things I have tossed that my friends and or family then takes and goes "why?" "why did you though it away?" Im like cause it frikin sucks the bigest frikin lolypops on the planet. and there like " no it don't its realy gooood." ¬_¬ ::sigh:: or I would stop working on something because it is going bad and they would ask me why I stoped and then say that I should finnish it anyways. why finnish something that you know is screwed up?
why save something that sucks all means of suckness?

Because others think its good. And I guess that means that the Artist does not know what is realy good or not, and or is extreamly modest.

Judgeing my own work makes me feel wierd. And if I say its a great pice then that would make it seam as though I am sure of myself wouldn't it?

when it comes to boosting ego i am best at boosting others ego not my own I guess.

I feel your pain.. but I could never have expressed as well as u do.. you have a way with words :D My little sister always yells at me 'you're so great! why do you say that you're terrible'. But I do admit sometimes that I'm good.. sometimes..

For example.. Mr.Piggles freakin rocks.

Serafimangel
05-14-2006, 05:26 AM
I think, if you are good enough to get published, then it MUST be good... right?
I mean, there are loads of people trying to get their work published, and if you have suceeded and people buy it, then your work is good, good enough anyway.

Pedes
05-14-2006, 11:05 AM
I think, if you are good enough to get published, then it MUST be good... right?
I mean, there are loads of people trying to get their work published, and if you have suceeded and people buy it, then your work is good, good enough anyway.
Well, it's 80% chance you are. I've seen something terrible publihsed in my coutry lately. Not to mention one album published here, hardcover and everythign and it was terrible ><
But in MOST CASES it does :)

RBTCS
08-07-2006, 01:43 PM
I'm convinced that it's a natural complex that artists have. It does not matter how awesome they are, they will always be convinced that they're horrible, that x, y, and z could have been done to make such-and-such better. But this says alot, really. It shows that people are always willing to improve themselves.

animevampire99
08-07-2006, 03:59 PM
I am getting published, but I don't think I am great >:P lol
I always find that when I put my work down, or critique myself, that I force myself to do a better drawing. I feel most people have inspiration in their work and compare it to the artist, which is normally ten times better lol, and they put themselves down. I don't think that is good because then you push yourself to be just like them and end up copying or being accused of it lol ^_^;;