Blu Ray or HD?

[Vicious]

So for those who can afford them, which one do you like more?

:3

I'm going with Blu Ray.

[Kaoru]

Blu-Ray.

Can't hardly find an HD-DVD in stores anymore. It's dead D:

So leik Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD flame war in 3...2...1...

[Aratos]

I'mma stick with regular DVD and wait till I see something happen.


Atm, what I'm seeing in stores is the oppostie of what Kaoru sees: I'm seeing plenty HDDVDs for sale but I don't recall when I last saw as blu-ray film, if ever.

[LKK6144]

I'm waiting for the format war to settle down. At the moment, my TV can't accept either, so I have some time before I make decision. Hopefully, there will be a dominant format by then.

[roxas87]

i prefer regular. my dad has a hd tv but no hd movies yet.

[Arcademan]

I prefer DVDs for now. Heck, I STILL use my VCR!

Here, it's about 60-40 in Blu-Ray availability compared to HD-DVD movie-wise. Looking in ads, HD-DVD players cost a lot less than Blu-Ray players.

[MizRobyn]

well, I'm a spoiled a$$ rich girl, lol. I have the X-box 360 HD DVD drive, and I now have a PS3, so I can watch ANYTHING! YAYS!

[Kaoru]

When you talk like that it really chips away at the integrity of anyone else with money :/

[MizRobyn]

j00 know I'm teasing. But yes, I do have both systems. After I watch something in blue ray, I'll let ya know if it's all that. I LOVE LOVE the HD DVD, though

[Aratos]

When you talk like that it really chips away at the integrity of anyone else with money :/


When you put it that way it sounds like they have integrity in the first place.

[PururinEleven]

So like, I'm still trying to figure out what the hell a Blu-Ray even is! D: I feel so behind the times... T__T

[Aratos]

So like, I'm still trying to figure out what the hell a Blu-Ray even is! D: I feel so behind the times... T__T

Basically, after HD-DVD was officially annoucned as the succesor of DVD, Sony decided to make their own rival format, and that's blu-ray.

[PururinEleven]

Ah, okay. Well, Sony sucks anyways. :P

[Kaoru]

When you put it that way it sounds like they have integrity in the first place.
They do, actually. No need to be jealous :|



And actually, HD-DVD was started after Sony had begun development on it's Blu Ray technology:

In February 2002, Sony officially announced a project that applied the new diodes,[5] and the Blu-ray Disc Association was founded by the nine initial members. The first consumer devices were in stores on April 10 the next year.[6] However, there was no standard for pre-recorded video (BD-ROM); no movies were released for that player.

The DVD Forum (which was chaired by Toshiba) was deeply split over whether to go with the more expensive blue lasers or not. In March 2002, the forum voted to approve a proposal endorsed by Warner Bros. and other motion picture studios that involved compressing HD content onto dual-layer DVD-9 discs.[7][8] However, in spite of this decision, the DVD Forum's Steering Committee announced in April that it was pursuing its own blue-laser high-definition solution.[9] In August, Toshiba and NEC announced their competing standard Advanced Optical Disc.[10] It was finally adopted by the DVD forum and renamed to HD DVD the next year,[11] after being voted down twice. Three new members had to be invited and the voting rules changed before the vote finally passed.[12][13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD#History

[Aratos]

Well it says here that Sony hadn't even done a lot of the basic planning by the time HD was declared the succesor, so.

[Kaoru]

Says here where?

[Aratos]

el reg.

[Kaoru]

el reg.
Probably just an opinion piece written by some anti-Blu Ray fag making crap up. Also, like with the Rockstar North being sold story, care to post at link to this? The Register is online ya know.

[Aratos]

Go look it up if you're so interested. I'm busy.

[Kaoru]

I'm not gonna waste my time. I already have the facts *goes back to Wikipedia*.

[Vicious]

Pffffft. Aratos is making up stories to sound smart. D:

So it seems Pixar and Disney has sided with Blu Ray. :3 Which means little kids would probably want to see Finding Nemo, Ratatouille, and all the upcoming kiddie movies so parents will probably buy blu-rays in the future yes.

I'm still siding with Blu Ray.

[Aratos]

Pffffft. Aratos is making up stories to sound smart. D:



Aratos doesn't feel so insecure as to need to defend himself against people on a forum.

[TheBohemian]

Yeah, instead Aratos feels the need to post in third person. :rolleyes:

[Kaoru]

Aratos doesn't feel so insecure as to need to defend himself against people on a forum. Hence our pages of discussions on various topics huh sure.

[FujikageDaiki]

I really don't see the difference between HD-DVDs and normal DVDs. They're the same to me really. Maybe the fact that you can see the eyelash that fell from an actor's eye in more definition is what turns people toward wasting money. BluRay is just too expensive.

[Aratos]

I really don't see the difference between HD-DVDs and normal DVDs. They're the same to me really. Maybe the fact that you can see the eyelash that fell from an actor's eye in more definition is what turns people toward wasting money. BluRay is just too expensive.

I don't see the difference between blu-ray and DVD either tbh. Honestly, VHS, DVD and hi-def are all exactly the same to me.

[FujikageDaiki]

What exactly is BluRay, really?

[Kaoru]

What exactly is BluRay, really?
A Blu-ray Disc (also called BD) is a high-density optical disc format for the storage of digital information, including high-definition video.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu_ray

Indeed.

[FujikageDaiki]

So, basically, its just a marketing gimmick to sell something similar to a DVD, but more expensive and with a catchier name?

[Kaoru]

So, basically, its just a marketing gimmick to sell something similar to a DVD, but more expensive and with a catchier name? Plus it has much more storage space then the 2 DVD formats.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_high_definition_optical_disc_formats #Technical_Details

[Aratos]

Basically, Sony decided that they can cash in if thwey make a ruival to trhe offiucially recognised succesor to dvd.

[Kaoru]

Basically, Sony decided that they can cash in if thwey make a ruival to trhe offiucially recognised succesor to dvd.
Dude, stfu. We already had this discussion a few pages ago. Read the facts.

[Aratos]

Kaoru, Sony made the player sure, but they hadn't even designed the actual blu-ray disk until after the HDDVD format was declared official.

[Kaoru]

Kaoru, Sony made the player sure, but they hadn't even designed the actual blu-ray disk until after the HDDVD format was declared official.
...

Can you read? Like seriously?

[Aratos]

Yeah.

Hint: wikipedia isn't accepted as a reliable primary source for a reason.

[Kaoru]

Note that it does not automatically make it wrong.

Only if you are stupid you would think it's all wrong, and it would show your ignorance to Wikipedia's inter-workings.

[Aratos]

It's one of the rules of the internet: Quoting wiki to back up an arguments automatically concedes the aforementioned to the opposition.

[Kaoru]

It's one of the rules of the internet: Quotingwiki to back up an arguments automatically concedes the aforementioned to the opposition.
What retard made up that?


Now please, let's stay on topic.

[FujikageDaiki]

There has been research done pointing out that Wikipedia is usually as or more accurate than an actual encyclopedia. They've been working on cleanups, checking over most edits within a few days, and eventually all. And they also take notice when a certain article is edited quite often.

[Aratos]

Yeah, but it's still not a primary source. It's written by people basing their facts on waht's written by others. So it's not got the same reliability as, y'know, actually going to the source.

[Kaoru]

Yeah, but it's still not a primary source. It's written by people basing their facts on waht's written by others. So it's not got the same reliability as, y'know, actually going to the source.
But in the end what difference does it make?

[FujikageDaiki]

Wikivalidity flame war in 3..2...1...

[Kaoru]

Wikivalidity flame war in 3..2...1... Actually I wanna more laugh at Aratos, because he can't disprove what I quoted so he's gonna attack my source. lol. Sorry if you are butt hurt : (

[Aratos]

Actually, kaoru, all your source said was that the player was made before the vote was passed. It didn't say anything about the disc format, whioch is what I'm talking about.

[Kaoru]

That doesn't change that the HD DVD format hadn't even been conceived before Blu Ray had started to get developed.

[Aratos]

the HDDVD format was already working before the blu ray format had been formaly planned. Sony could easily have simply made their players run the HDDVD discs, but instead decided they wanted to have more control. It's greed. That's my point. Their entire marketting strategy is absed ons elling hardware at a loss and making money on the discs, rememebr?

[Kaoru]

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1952.html

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,104570-page,1/article.html

Go read the dates and articles ZOMG IT'S NOT WIKI SO YOU CAN'T CRY OVER IT.

[Aratos]

Pyeh. I'mma go look up some references when I get home.

[Kaoru]

What, mine aren't good enough?

Swallow your pride and give it up :/ This is getting sad.

[FujikageDaiki]

Look. Both HD DVD and Blu-Ray suck. End discussion.

[Kaoru]

Look. Both HD DVD and Blu-Ray suck. End discussion. That isn't our discussion tho.

[FujikageDaiki]

Yeah, but who cares about useless technology? Only losters discuss useless DVD format stuff.

[Kaoru]

I just like accurate info in discussion.

[FujikageDaiki]

You're wasting your time. Go ahead if you want.

[Vicious]

Yeah, but who cares about useless technology? Only losters discuss useless DVD format stuff.
T_T Stop acting like a stuck up jackass and a moron. >_>

We can talk about whatever we want here. Who cares if it's a useless thread. Nearly half the threads on this forum are useless to begin with. So stfu if you have nothing to contribute to a thread.

[Kaoru]

hay I'm with Fuji on this one. Not necessarily the thread, but the topic at hand, well the former topic, is useless.

[Rossignol]

A little left-fieldish but, does anyone see the point in laptops having a blu-ray or hd dvd drive? Who'd really want to watch a high definition movie on a 15" screen?

[Kaoru]

A little left-fieldish but, does anyone see the point in laptops having a blu-ray or hd dvd drive? Who'd really want to watch a high definition movie on a 15" screen?
Any upgrade in definition is a good one. Well IMO anyways.

[Tajtan]

A little left-fieldish but, does anyone see the point in laptops having a blu-ray or hd dvd drive? Who'd really want to watch a high definition movie on a 15" screen?well, besides a cleaner vid, doesn't blu-ray hold more on it so in that respect I can see why it would be handy to have it on a laptop.

[Aratos]

You mean they've released blu-ray writers?

[Tajtan]

I don't know. :( I knew I'd be called on it if I commented on a computery thing. lol So that was like, for in the future. ;)

[Kaoru]

Ja they have. But the speeds are ungodly slow.

[lysse]

i'm going with HD, for that's what i got

[feder]

I prefer regular DVDs. I just don't really see the point in getting high definition DVDs. I have seen some movies in blu-ray format, and I wasn't real impressed.

At any rate, most of the DVDs I buy are anime, and I really don't think anime needs to be high definition unless it's something like Advent Children...and even then...

[Vicious]

New Topic Discussion:

If you had to choose the next gen DVD Format, would you rather choose Blu Ray or HD DVD's?

[Aratos]

Anybody else laugh every time they see someone try and declare that they're changing the topic with no reason?

[Vicious]

Anybody else laugh every time they see someone try and declare that they're changing the topic with no reason?
Again with you being an ass. >_> Stfu already.

Tis just like you. Alas, there IS a reason behind the slight topic change, so people can choose either blu ray or HD DVD and not go with regular DVD. Grant it that I put regular DVD up on the poll, I'm just curious to see what people will choose for our next gen format.

So like I said before [in other threads], either contribute to the facking discussion or stfu biatch. D:

Psst. Besides, I nearly put it up just to see what they will pick, if they don't answer, then I don't mind

[Kaoru]

Anybody else laugh every time they see someone try and declare that they're changing the topic with no reason? lol zomg another form of ur butt-buddy 'TOPIC EVOLUTION'.

@Loanman: n00b mistake. If you wanted them you chose one of the two don't put a third option.

[YamPuff]

So, basically, its just a marketing gimmick to sell something similar to a DVD, but more expensive and with a catchier name?
When I die I shall bequeath to you 1,000 internets.

[FujikageDaiki]

Sweet. Then I'll have over 9000 internets...

But yeah, I'd go with HD-DVD because BluRay is way too expensive. If I was hogtied in a basement and the only ay to escape was to chose one or the other.

[Aratos]

lol zomg another form of ur butt-buddy 'TOPIC EVOLUTION'.


Evolution's natural, remember? Forced evolution is as big a fail as forced meme. Milhouse doesn't own the topic just because he started the thread.

[Kaoru]

Evolution's natural, remember? Forced evolution is as big a fail as forced meme. Milhouse doesn't own the topic just because he started the thread. That's not any less natural then when someone like you starts blabaring off topic then defends it with his vague, ill defined, term he made up (or some other lamer, doesn't make a difference) and so he can twist the meaning to fit it his way *cough*

So gtfo Hawkeye >:O

[Aratos]

Well this is fun.

[Kaoru]

This is vary fun *spam* *spam* *spam*

[YamPuff]

I claim this thread in the name of Spam!

[Aratos]

I claim this thread in the name of Spam!

Spam spam spammity spam (http://youtube.com/watch?v=wZ7YedEopp4)!

[YamPuff]

yeys this thread needz moar spam

[genesis24]

I looooooove technology....so they are both cool. BUT, I have to say I want Blue Ray to win out. GO Sony!! You almost feel sorry for them...terrible business decisions...great technology...^^

[Tajtan]

I looooooove technology....so they are both cool. BUT, I have to say I want Blue Ray to win out. GO Sony!! You almost feel sorry for them...terrible business decisions...great technology...^^Oh, I totally want blu-ray to win out. That is, if it has to come down to either/or. Why can't they just have both? It's frustrating when companies go with one or the other. If it isn't available on blu-ray then I'm buying the regular cheap dvd. I will not buy any HD's.

[Aratos]

Why can't they just have both? It's frustrating when companies go with one or the other.


Actually, there was a deal worked out and offered that would have sorted it out, allowed both and more than likely left blu-ray as the victor. Sony refused it. So basically the answer to your question is that they can't just have both because there are whiny brats running the whole thing that want everything their own way.

[Tajtan]

Actually, there was a deal worked out and offered that would have sorted it out, allowed both and more than likely left blu-ray as the victor. Sony refused it. So basically the answer to your question is that they can't just have both because there are whiny brats running the whole thing that want everything their own way.I think I like whiney brats. Look who my friends are. :rolleyes:

[LKK6144]

Looks like Blu-Ray has won the war. On Friday, Wal-Mart announced that it would no longer carry HD-DVD disks or equipment. On Saturday, an NHK broadcast said that Toshiba, maker of HD-DVD, would no longer invest in developing new HD-DVD.

Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNewsAndPR/idUSL1627196120080216

[Kaoru]

Sh!tstorm in 3...2...1...

[Aratos]

I'mma just sit and wait till someone gives up.

[Tajtan]

Excellent. I like Blu-ray better. :D

[Aratos]

Tosahiba and MS have now abandoned HDDVD.

Microsoft are now planning a new format: digital distribution. With any luck DOwnloading will be the final winner! :DDDDDDDDD

[Tajtan]

Tosahiba and MS have now abandoned HDDVD.

Microsoft are now planning a new format: digital distribution. With any luck DOwnloading will be the final winner! :DDDDDDDDDWe knew Toshiba did since that's what the link is about. And isn't MS, Microsoft? :confused: (Or are you just making a joke and I'm clueless :eek:)

As far as digital distribution, um, how was it you watched Hitman already again toast, since it hasn't been released on DVD yet? :rolleyes:

[Aratos]

Yes, yes MS is indeed Microsoft.

[Tajtan]

Well, isn't HD DVD Microsoft? So they're abandoning their own product?

And I noticed you haven't answered my Hitman question for all to see. *snicker*

[Aratos]

No, HD DVD's Toshiba. Microsoft chose to support it because it was the better choice from a business point of view. And now they're changing to good old digital.

As for how I watched Hitman, projected onto a screen. ;)

[Kaoru]

So what I am wondering is when the Blu-Ray drive for the 360 will come out :O

[Aratos]

Rumours are it won't, and MS is going to attempt to defeat blu-ray with their own format, probably direct digital distribution. They can't really afford to license blu-ray, for a start.

[Kaoru]

1) that was a joke, 2) no one asked you go away D:<