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Satsukiyami
03-21-2006, 08:09 AM
Watch it?? I love the first season but i think i missed a few episodes at the beginning. I think the second season is going to start soon in the UK, i CANNOT wait for it to start!
penguinminor
03-21-2006, 08:43 AM
I'm a big fan of Lost.
It's the only show I watch on television nowadays, aside from House.
The show is well into the second season in North America right now. It gets really, really interesting! You won't want to miss out on what happens.
Ashton_Anchors
03-21-2006, 08:47 AM
I love Charlie! He's so adorable and I feel bad for him. I haven't watched the show in ages though, I figured I'll just buy the series when it comes out on DVD, all of them at once or something, cause I know the 1st season is out.
Shadow Ranger Blue
03-21-2006, 09:41 AM
Lost is so cool, I live in the UK as well but I've already downloaded most of season 2 because I know I wont be allowed to watch it when its on TV here.
circaocean
03-21-2006, 09:52 AM
i've begun too lose interest in it don't know why its an awesome show but i just don't care for TV anymore really
Satsukiyami
03-21-2006, 10:15 AM
Lost is so cool, I live in the UK as well but I've already downloaded most of season 2 because I know I wont be allowed to watch it when its on TV here.
Yes i've got my hands on season 2 eps 1-3 and still going... but i've got no more space on my hard drive... so i might wait... it should be starting soon shouldn't it?
Hmmm... i think my fav character is Sawyer... some of his lines are so funny... but he's also got that mystery behind him.
Ashton_Anchors
03-21-2006, 10:25 AM
So what is everyones theroy?
I think that they are either dead and don't realize it, or that they are in a coma and the people that die in the coma world wake up.
LadyTanyata
03-21-2006, 01:01 PM
Sawyer's my favourite character. I just love him!! I hope it does come out soon here in the UK. I've seen up to episode 5 of series 2 but thats only cos I borrowed them off a friend.
As for theories.....well there's got to be something supernatural-like with Michael's son Walt but I'm not entirely sure what?
Also think that it could just be some kind of psychological test that they're being put through (got this from the beginning of series 2 so not going to say any more incase of spoilers!)
Satsukiyami
03-21-2006, 01:03 PM
O... i haven't made up a theory...yet. Might work on that lol! But your's sound quite good!
Perdition City
03-21-2006, 01:05 PM
I had a couple of theories about the end of the first lost season... I won't go into it though cause i havn't seen it for a while and my memories a little fuzzy. Does anyone know when it's coming back on in UK? an exact date?
penguinminor
03-21-2006, 01:42 PM
Hmm ... favorite character, eh?
Probably Hugo, or Hurley, which ever you prefer. :)
My theory (includes spoilers, so it's in white for those that haven't started watching season 2 yet, highlight to read): I'm thinking that part of the idea for the show came from the John Wyndham novel The Chrysalids. For those of you who haven't read the novel, it takes place in a post apocalyptic world in which there are certain people with a strong telekinetic bond, and they can communicate telepathically.
I'm guessing that Walt is sort of like that, and so are the people on the island that are part of the Darma Corporation. The old guy, and the twins, and the others that were on the boat at the end of season one, and who showed up a few episodes ago, are all part of the Darma Corp, and their ragged clothing and what not is all just a disguise.
From Claire's flashbacks in the last episode, I'm guessing the man that Ethan was talking to at the door of the 'baby room' was actually the leader of the others, the big guy with the beard.
emmsiebelle
03-21-2006, 01:49 PM
I am up to the 15th episode of season two (maternity leave i think it was called) And it was amazing and i also think you theory about you know who talking outside that room is right coz of the stuff that was found in the room by clair hope you know what i am talking about!! But it really is an amazing show!!:p
Gibby Gibson
03-21-2006, 01:59 PM
LOST is an interesting show that contains more plot twists then anything I've ever seen before. I think that unpredictability is what I like about the show for I cannot stay on the same idea for very long. Once you think you’ve got it all figured out, they throw something at you that just confuses the issue more.
Character wise, I like Clair above all. Just being a mother on such an island and going through such turmoil really brings out the character and builds her up. Of course, I’ve missed the last few shows that just came out so I cannot tell what’s happened up to this point.
Satsukiyami
03-21-2006, 02:08 PM
I had a couple of theories about the end of the first lost season... I won't go into it though cause i havn't seen it for a while and my memories a little fuzzy. Does anyone know when it's coming back on in UK? an exact date?
Sadly no idea about the exact date... all that i know is that its back in April or May. Patience is a virtue.
I have to admit that Hurley, Clair and Walt's stories were REALLY intresting.
DescentfromOblivion
03-21-2006, 02:08 PM
Lost SUCKS
Perdition City
03-21-2006, 02:08 PM
LOST is an interesting show that contains more plot twists then anything I've ever seen before. I think that unpredictability is what I like about the show for I cannot stay on the same idea for very long. Once you think you’ve got it all figured out, they throw something at you that just confuses the issue more.
Thats the same appeal I get from it too :)
Vicious
03-21-2006, 03:12 PM
Fantastic series. Waiting for the 2nd season to come out on DVD.
So far I have a theory about the French ladies daughter. She ain't dead ^_^ I think she's that nurse who was taking care of "Claire's" baby (I think her name is clair)
nixon
03-21-2006, 04:08 PM
Who says "Lost sucks"?
Bring it...
the doc
shadowmose
03-21-2006, 05:53 PM
My theory (includes spoilers, so it's in white for those that haven't started watching season 2 yet, highlight to read): I'm thinking that part of the idea for the show came from the John Wyndham novel The Chrysalids. For those of you who haven't read the novel, it takes place in a post apocalyptic world in which there are certain people with a strong telekinetic bond, and they can communicate telepathically.
I'm guessing that Walt is sort of like that, and so are the people on the island that are part of the Darma Corporation. The old guy, and the twins, and the others that were on the boat at the end of season one, and who showed up a few episodes ago, are all part of the Darma Corp, and their ragged clothing and what not is all just a disguise.
From Claire's flashbacks in the last episode, I'm guessing the man that Ethan was talking to at the door of the 'baby room' was actually the leader of the others, the big guy with the beard.
I don't think <spoiler> the guy Ethan was talking to at door is the boss because he said something like "What are you doing because you wouldn't want him to be angry" I think the boss is still unseen. </spoiler>
penguinminor
03-21-2006, 06:09 PM
shadowmoses, in response to what you said (not quoted because the spoilers written in white show up in the quote boxes :p )
My reply is in white to hide any spoilers.
Ah, yes. I agree that the real boss has yet to be seen. However, I still think the guy that Ethan was talking to at the door was the big guy with the beard that was on the boat. The one who took Walt. It sounded a lot like him.
shadowmose
03-21-2006, 06:16 PM
I agree that was him because remember <spoiler> Kate or someone went looking in a locker and found a fake beard with thearter glue. </spoiler>
Thx, for the tip about the spoilers in quotes.
penguinminor
03-21-2006, 06:20 PM
Indeed. I thought that really sort of gave things away, but meh.
They'll probably throw in some other crazy plot twist.
shadowmose
03-21-2006, 06:26 PM
Is there going to be new ep. on wed? The last one was a couple weeks ago. Also I couldn't belive <spoiler> That the prisoner got Locke so riled up like that. I heard theories that Locke was only acting like that to fake out the prisoner.</spoiler> What do you think?
penguinminor
03-21-2006, 06:28 PM
Yes, that kind of threw me.
Locke is a lot smarter than that.
I hope there's a new episode this week. I can't stand waiting two or more weeks for a new episode. Unfortunately, if American Idol is on, Lost will be cut.
Damn that Idol show!
shadowmose
03-21-2006, 06:40 PM
I can't stand waiting two or more weeks for a new episode.
I wish ABC would do it like FOX and have it premire in Jan. and air uninterupted. Actually, I shouldn't complain too much because I miss some ep. here and there due to school.:p
penguinminor
03-21-2006, 06:57 PM
I wish ABC would do it like FOX and have it premire in Jan. and air uninterupted. Actually, I shouldn't complain too much because I miss some ep. here and there due to school.:p
Ah! Just got off the phone with my g/f, and she's informed me that there will be a new episode tomorrow night. :D
I guess the Idol show is on before Lost. Yay! ^^
spotpc
03-22-2006, 09:57 AM
God, I love this show too. My favorite characters are Sawyer, Kate, and Sayid. They are the most fascinating, IMHO. My theory at the end of season 1 was that the island was inhabited by spirits that could possess people. But I have another possible theory for season 2. It has more to do with the Dharma project.
spotpc
03-22-2006, 10:11 AM
Season 2 discussion in white:
My season 2 theory is that the Dharma project involved experiments on inducing violent behavior. That would explain the scientists, the animals, and the wild people. And if that's true, then they would need to control the wild people somehow. I think that's what the button is for. Maybe if it doesn't get pushed every 108 minutes, the wild people will rage out of control.
What do you think?
JimDeVico
03-22-2006, 10:33 AM
Season 2 discussion in white:
My season 2 theory is that the Dharma project involved experiments on inducing violent behavior. That would explain the scientists, the animals, and the wild people. And if that's true, then they would need to control the wild people somehow. I think that's what the button is for. Maybe if it doesn't get pushed every 108 minutes, the wild people will rage out of control.
What do you think?
Why not just use the spoiler tag?
http://messageboard.tokyopop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533
spotpc
03-22-2006, 10:37 AM
Didn't think of that. And I like playing with the font. LOL I'll do that next time.
penguinminor
03-22-2006, 12:47 PM
Why not just use the spoiler tag?
http://messageboard.tokyopop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533
Awesome. Thanks, Jim! :cool:
@spotpc: Ooh! Cool theory. I like it, and it makes a lot of sense. :)
Never really thought about it like that, but it sure does explain ... well, everything you just said.
spotpc
03-22-2006, 02:24 PM
Thanks! I'm still developing my theories, trying to combine them so that everything is explained. But I'm not there yet.
I think Locke really is that dumb. After all, didn't he get scammed out of a KIDNEY? He's a trusting fool, that's his problem. So is Jack, of course, but Jack will only get fooled once before he gets wise. Locke needs to be hit over the head repeatedly to get something into his head. LOL
And now I have to leave work and make my way home. Be back in an hour or so.
evilmingdoctor
03-22-2006, 05:16 PM
i was going to post this thread on the first day - but i didn't want it to turn into a massive thread of spoilers; as i'm halfway through the 2nd season, whereas most people in the uk still haven't started the second season - oh well it's a mint show anyways
penguinminor
03-22-2006, 05:24 PM
i was going to post this thread on the first day - but i didn't want it to turn into a massive thread of spoilers; as i'm halfway through the 2nd season, whereas most people in the uk still haven't started the second season - oh well it's a mint show anyways
It sure is.
Luckily most people have been considerate to mark their spoilers.
Plus, the new spoiler tag is pretty sweet. :D
Satsukiyami
03-23-2006, 09:03 AM
Yup thanks everyone for marking your spoilers... i've been able to stay away thankfully!
JimDeVico
03-23-2006, 09:18 AM
That was one of the best endings to a show ever. "Got any milk?"
Next week looks good.
penguinminor
03-23-2006, 11:29 AM
That was one of the best endings to a show ever. "Got any milk?"
Next week looks good.
Heh! It sure was a good episode. I missed half of it, though, because my local network aired it an hour earlier because of American Idol. :(
Good thing I just happened to check the TV at 8:30 ...
spotpc
03-23-2006, 12:11 PM
Will miracles never cease on that island? LOL
Unless she's lying, of course. And she could be.
penguinminor
03-23-2006, 12:36 PM
Will miracles never cease on that island? LOL
Unless she's lying, of course. And she could be.
I think that she may be.
If kind of alluded to that in Sun's last flashback. Poor Jin. :(
spotpc
03-23-2006, 12:42 PM
I'm not sure that was it.
If her English teacher had been the guy then she would have shown signs of being pregnant earlier. Remember, they've been on the island for two months. I think it's more likely she had a thing with someone else on the island.
penguinminor
03-23-2006, 12:45 PM
Ah, good point. I tend to lose track of the time. :D
If it was someone else on the island, it was probably Michael, but I don't think anything like that happened between them.
Hmm ... I should really look at getting season one on DVD so I can go back and watch all the old episodes
spotpc
03-23-2006, 12:53 PM
It didn't really seem like that to me either. But I missed a couple of eps in season 1 so stuff might have happened that I didn't see.
JimDeVico
03-23-2006, 01:02 PM
They have been on the island for almost 60 days now. When they brought us up to speed on the "Tailies" it was day 45. Anna Lucia said last night that the two groups have joined together a "week" ago which would make it 52 days or more.
spotpc
03-23-2006, 01:06 PM
And when they... met the evil bearded guy, he said that they'd been there for almost two months. And it's been a week since that happened.
shadowmose
03-23-2006, 03:49 PM
What do you guys think the odds are that Ana Lucia will be killed in the exchange for the prisoner? I think I heard that the producers wanted to get rid of her because of her legal troubles.
spotpc
03-23-2006, 03:51 PM
I truly hope so, shadow. I've always hated her and I make no secret of it.
shadowmose
03-23-2006, 03:54 PM
I truly hope so, shadow. I've always hated her and I make no secret of it.
Have you heard that other fans are calling her Anal?:p
It's like she has only one experession on her face all the time.
spotpc
03-23-2006, 04:00 PM
Bwahahahaha!!
Anal! Now that's evil. I love it. And it's true, she really does have only one expression.
shadowmose
03-23-2006, 04:22 PM
I found the Canadian promo for next weeks ep.
http://media.putfile.com/Lockdown-promo73
Theres some different stuff then the US one.
spotpc
03-23-2006, 04:36 PM
It won't play. Oh well, I know it's going to be cool anyway. I'd just love it when they stick it to Locke.
shadowmose
03-23-2006, 04:44 PM
It won't play. Oh well, I know it's going to be cool anyway. I'd just love it when they stick it to Locke.
Really, that odd because I just checked right now and it plays fine.:confused: You see Locke freaking out and the blast doors shutting down. I think the bunker might be remote controlled.
spotpc
03-23-2006, 04:46 PM
That's possible. Or Locke did something stupid again. That's always a possibility.
shadowmose
03-23-2006, 04:58 PM
Do you think at the end of the second season Sun will give birth and if yes, will the others attempt to kidnap the baby? Provided of course, the producers decide to speed up the timeframe. It seems to me that the flashblacks of the charcters are losing steam. I don't think their needed anymore. I would prefer flashblacks of the Island or of the Dhrama Corp. What do you think?
spotpc
03-23-2006, 05:09 PM
I think they'll take longer to draw out Sun's baby plot. They'll go for something else in the meantime. They have to get back to the love triangle at some point too.
shadowmose
03-23-2006, 05:22 PM
Do you mean between Jack,Kate, and Sawyer? I thought it was defintely leaning towards Kate and Sawyer hooking up. The kiss between Kate and Jack had no spark or something.
spotpc
03-23-2006, 05:24 PM
I'm a proud SKater and always will be. But they seem to be on the rocks now since the whole thing with the guns. But I think they'll get back together. You're right, there's no spark between her and Jack anymore. They used to flirt alot but now it's gone cold.
shadowmose
03-23-2006, 05:30 PM
What was Sawyer reason again for taking the guns? I thought Sawyer was getting along better with the other castways and all of sudden he does this.
spotpc
03-23-2006, 05:38 PM
Well, it takes some deep character analysis to really understand. Lucky I've done a lot of that.
When Sawyer got back from the raft disaster, he found that his stash was gone. During season 1, his stash was his security blanket. Having some sort of material advantage made him feel secure. When he lost it, he felt very insecure. And at the same time, he started realizing how quickly his life was changing. Suddenly, he had all these people getting close to him. And he realized he was really in love for the first time. For a person who has always been alone, these changes can be terrifying. He was so scared that he fell back into what had helped him before. He stole the guns for two reasons. He needed his security blanket back, and he wanted to push everyone away again. I hope that helps.
shadowmose
03-23-2006, 05:49 PM
Thx, spotpc:) So Sawyer did that in order go back someplace comfortably, mentally anyway. So you see Sawyer right now as regressing throughout the season or that was a one time thing? How about this for a wild theory- Sawyer and Charile both turn to the others when Jack is about to stage an attack against the others. With Sawyer taking all the guns and the cast is finally trimmed down to a more manageable size.:D
spotpc
03-23-2006, 06:02 PM
Poor baby Sawyer-kun. Yeah, he is regressing. But I don't think he'll go all the way back to where he was before. I don't think he can. He'll start to improve again when Kate comes back to him. He just needs to be nursed slowly out of his shell. It might happen again. I won't rule it out. But for now I think the camp is safe, at least from him.
I don't think Sawyer or Charlie would ever defect. Both are too loyal to Jack to do that. It might seem funny to say that Sawyer is loyal to Jack. But think about this, when Boone went searching through the stash, Sawyer beat him up. But Jack has done the same thing repeatedly and Sawyer does nothing about it. I explain that by saying that Sawyer respects Jack and won't challenge him directly. Also, Sawyer wouldn't do something like that unless he was sure he could gain from it. But there's no guarantee that he would gain from defecting. And Sawyer knows that if he defected, Kate would never forgive him. As for Charlie, he adores Jack. He would never betray him.
shadowmose
03-23-2006, 06:15 PM
As for Charlie, he adores Jack. He would never betray him.
Wasn't Charlie going down this dark path because Claire stopped speaking to him and didn't he beat up or knocked out Sun as well. . I could be wrong because my memory is little hazy right now.:o
spotpc
03-23-2006, 06:21 PM
He was going dark a little but I think he's better now. Since Jack reached out to him, I think that meant alot to Charlie. The only reason he helped Sawyer was because he wanted to get back at Locke. I don't think Sun was supposed to get hurt at all. Charlie was just supposed to drag her a little way and then let her struggle loose. I get the feeling her injury was an accident. But I guess I could be wrong.
shadowmose
03-23-2006, 06:32 PM
How about if in the process of Jack and Locke battling for control, Sawyer,Micheal,and Jun step in and assume power so to speak. I know its not probable but you never know. Is it safe to assume that Micheal wasn't talking to Walt on the computer? Is the actor making a movie or the writers decided to give his charcter a rest for a while. It was getting a little funny with Micheal constanty saying "They took my son". I'm seeing the struggle between Jack and Locke maybe concluding one way or other in the season finale. What do you think?
spotpc
03-23-2006, 06:42 PM
I think it's possible that the power struggle could be resolved soon. But there's only one way for it to go down. Jack has to win. Locke is headed for a fall. It's obvious, IMHO. I think Locke is going to get himself into big trouble in the next episode and Jack will find a way to save him. Then Locke will feel obligated to stop agitating against him.
Like I said before, Sawyer will always be a loyal supported to Jack, if for no other reason than Kate supports Jack. Michael doesn't have the chops to be a real leader and he knows it. He wouldn't put himself in that position. Jin would tag along with whatever Michael was doing, but I don't think either one would associate with Sawyer right now.
There's no way Micheal was talking to the real Walt on that computer. It was some kind of trick. He may stumble back into camp one of these days but he'll be alone when he arrives.
shadowmose
03-23-2006, 06:57 PM
Locke is headed for a fall. It's obvious, IMHO. I think Locke is going to get himself into big trouble in the next episode and Jack will find a way to save him. Then Locke will feel obligated to stop agitating against him.
I would think Locke would resent Jack more if Jack had to save him. I think Locke likes doing things the hard way and will never like being told what to do. Remember back in one of Locke's flashbacks, he freaked out because the tour guide wouldn't let him on the tour. The tour guide called him a liability and Locke screamed he doesn't like being told what he can't do. Your right, Jack is the leader. I would sorta compare them to Megatron and Starscream. Locke would be obey but is always looking out for his best internests. Locke is the religious fantic who believes he is obeying a higher power. That's why I believed Locke lagged in telling Jack and everyone else about Boone and the hatch. What's your take and could you compare them to some other relationships? I couldn't think of anythink besides Transformers:o
spotpc
03-23-2006, 07:18 PM
That's so funny. I thought of Transformers too. But I thought of Sawyer as being like Starscream. I seem to remember Starscream being a little bit crazy and greedy.
This is going to make so much sense if you've read the book. I've been comparing the survivors to characters in Watership Down. Jack is like Hazel who was the leader of the rabbits. Locke is like Bigwig who always had some power tension with Hazel. Charlie is like Fiver, Hazel's scrawny little brother who was a psychic and had visions of the future. Kate is like Hyzenthlay who was the leader of an underground rebel faction in Efrafa. Sawyer is like Blackavar who was always trying to escape from Efrafa and got beaten repeatedly for it. Sayid is like Blackberry who figured out a way for the rebels to escape from Efrafa. Hurley is like Pipkin who was the weakest and the most fearful of them all.
shadowmose
03-23-2006, 07:35 PM
That's so funny. I thought of Transformers too. But I thought of Sawyer as being like Starscream. I seem to remember Starscream being a little bit crazy and greedy.
This is going to make so much sense if you've read the book. I've been comparing the survivors to characters in Watership Down. Jack is like Hazel who was the leader of the rabbits. Locke is like Bigwig who always had some power tension with Hazel. Charlie is like Fiver, Hazel's scrawny little brother who was a psychic and had visions of the future. Kate is like Hyzenthlay who was the leader of an underground rebel faction in Efrafa. Sawyer is like Blackavar who was always trying to escape from Efrafa and got beaten repeatedly for it. Sayid is like Blackberry who figured out a way for the rebels to escape from Efrafa. Hurley is like Pipkin who was the weakest and the most fearful of them all.
Sawyer has no interest in being in power so he can't be starscream.:p Would Micheal be a better fit for Blakavar because he really wants off the island and is most likely to keep knocked around in his pursuit of Walt. I could see Walt as Pipkin or Fiver due to his psychic power.The past manifestions of summoning polar bears and the other's desire in having him could make Walt being the most fearful of them all.
I'm thinking the island itself is a B.F Skinner Box run by the Dhrama Corp in order to change or alter peoples behavior.Notice how the other's call their kidnapping only taking the "good ones".
spotpc
03-23-2006, 07:45 PM
Sawyer has no interest in being in power so he can't be starscream.:p Would Micheal be a better fit for Blakavar because he really wants off the island and is most likely to keep knocked around in his pursuit of Walt. I could see Walt as Pipkin or Fiver due to his psychic power.The past manifestions of summoning polar bears and the other's desire in having him could make Walt being the most fearful of them all.
That's just the way I saw it at a glance. Have you read Watership Down? Or seen the movie?
I'm thinking the island itself is a B.F Skinner Box run by the Dhrama Corp in order to change or alter peoples behavior.Notice how the other's call their kidnapping only taking the "good ones".
I had a theory like that at the beginning but I morphed it into my season 2 theory that I posted a while back in this thread. I only have those two theories. The magical one and the scientific one.
shadowmose
03-23-2006, 07:57 PM
I'll admit I haven't seen or read Watership down but only basing them off your descriptions.:o
I thought the writer's were moving towards a somewhat realitistic explanation since introducing the Dhrama Corp. This could be always be a big fakeout so you never know. I thought at first in season one that the castways were in limbo and were being judged. The other's were taking them to the next step of the afterlife.
I gotta go right now so I'll see you later.
spotpc
03-23-2006, 07:59 PM
OK, see ya later.
spotpc
03-27-2006, 07:36 AM
I'll admit I haven't seen or read Watership down but only basing them off your descriptions.:o
I thought the writer's were moving towards a somewhat realitistic explanation since introducing the Dhrama Corp. This could be always be a big fakeout so you never know. I thought at first in season one that the castways were in limbo and were being judged. The other's were taking them to the next step of the afterlife.
I gotta go right now so I'll see you later.
You could be right, of course. Though it could be that the Dharma project was studying the supernatural occurrances on the island. Now that's something to think about.
Watership Down is one of my old favorite books. Like Sawyer-kun said, it's about bunnies. But it's quite a bit darker than most people think. If you wanna here the story...
It starts with a young rabbit named Hazel who lives in a nice big warren. He's not very high up on the totem pole but he's fairly popular because everybody he talks to thinks he's level-headed and smart and cool. He has a little brother named Fiver who is kinda scrawny and spazzy. But Fiver is psychic and he senses things and gets prophetic visions. So one day, Fiver and Hazel are out on the outskirts of the warren looking for good food and Fiver has one of his visions. He tells Hazel that they have to leave home as soon as possible because there's a great danger coming. Most of the time, Hazel is really the only one who takes Fiver seriously. But they manage to convince a bunch of their friends to leave with them. The chief rabbit forbids them to leave so they have to sneak away in the middle of the night. Some of the owsla (warren police) try to stop them but they convince one of the officers to help them escape. His name is Bigwig and he's been a little disgruntled with the system for a while so he decides to leave with Hazel and his friends. The group gets away from the warren and wanders over the countryside. Hazel becomes a great leader, getting his friends through many dangers and traps. Fiver's visions tell him that they are looking for a high hill where they can make a new warren and live in peace. When they finally find the place, they discover an empty warren there. No smell of death or disease, just deserted. So they move right in. But there's a problem. Suddenly they look up and notice that the group is only guys. There's no girls anywhere. But luckily, they meet a crazy seagull named Keehar who falls wounded on their hill. As they nurse him back to health, he tells them that there's another warren nearby, Efrafa. Efrafa is terribly overcrowded and ruled by a vicious tyrant named General Woundwort. So Hazel decides that the best plan is to liberate some of the Efrafans and get them to join up. In the midst of all this, Hazel and his friends meet up with an old friend. Captain Holly, one of the owsla from the old warren. Though he's half mad, he tells them that the disaster Fiver predicted had come in the form of humans who were clearing the land for development. Holly had been the only one who got out alive and he immediatelly set out in search of the group who left. On his way, he was captured by an Efrafan patrol. He gives them alot of info on how Efrafa works and tells them that there is a resistance movement within Efrafa. Following Hazel's plan, Bigwig infiltrates Efrafa and makes contact with the rebel underground. The rebels are led by a spirited girl named Hyzenthlay. She has made repeated attemts to get the foul-tempered chief rabbit to let her and her friends leave Efrafa, with no success. In fact, the chief and his owsla have resorted to threatening her and she is being watched constantly. Among her group, there's a loose cannon named Blackavar who keeps trying to escape. Every time he gets caught, the owsla give him new wounds but he refuses to give up. With the help of these two, Bigwig relays his info to Hazel. They finally organize the rest of their plan and with everybody pitching in, Bigwig manages to escape from Efrafa with most of the resistance. They only just avoid General Woundwort and make it back to Watership Down (the name of their hilltop home). But it's not over yet. The General isn't about to let this go so he gathers his owsla and tracks the escapees all the way to their new home. Before Hazel and his warren can react, they're surrounded by Efrafans determined to kill them all. Left with few options, Hazel comes up with one last desperate plan. Near the foot of the hill there's a farm with a big nasty dog. Hazel and a few of his friends manage to slip past the Efrafans and place themselves at intervals between the warren and the farm. Hazel himself goes into the farm and gets the dog's attention. Once it's chasing him, he puts the plan into action. The rabbits run a relay race, leading the dog from the farm up the hill to the besieged warren. The Efrafans are scared off by the dog and the General disappears, never to be seen again. Happily ever after!
shadowmose
03-27-2006, 01:48 PM
Check out this link I found:
http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3137781&pid=4815010&st=0&#entry4815010
I like Lost but come on:rolleyes:
spotpc
03-27-2006, 01:50 PM
Bwahahaha! You're right. That's going a little overboard. But I like that little logo pic in the upper left corner. Cute...
shadowmose
03-27-2006, 02:03 PM
What's your take on what the monster is? I been hearing that it could only be a nanobot swarm. When Mr.Eko stared it down you could make out some faces from his past.
spotpc
03-27-2006, 02:05 PM
What's your take on what the monster is? I been hearing that it could only be a nanobot swarm. When Mr.Eko stared it down you could make out some faces from his past.
Well, a nanobot swarm couldn't read memories. So it has to be something else. Could it be some sort of manifestation of fears?
shadowmose
03-27-2006, 02:13 PM
Well, a nanobot swarm couldn't read memories. So it has to be something else. Could it be some sort of manifestation of fears?
True, but wasn't the monster making mechanical sounds in the first season? Remember, when Locke was being dragged by the monster in S1 finale, you could hear something like gears being pulled.
spotpc
03-27-2006, 02:16 PM
True, but wasn't the monster making mechanical sounds in the first season? Remember, when Locke was being dragged by the monster in S1 finale, you could hear something like gears being pulled.
In the first few eps I thought it sounded like a dinosaur. But a nanobot swarm wouldn't sound like gears. Didn't someone say it was a security thing? Maybe it's some sort of hard-light hologram.
C. Babb
03-27-2006, 02:17 PM
I think it is the best show ever. However, it will not be able to go longer than another season... The new Twin Peaks... I hope it doesn't end on a weak point.
spotpc
03-27-2006, 02:18 PM
I think it is the best show ever. However, it will not be able to go longer than another season... The new Twin Peaks... I hope it doesn't end on a weak point.
X-Files did that too. But it's gotta end somehow. A bang or a whimper...
spotpc
03-27-2006, 02:25 PM
I have to leave work now. I'll be back in about an hour.
shadowmose
03-27-2006, 02:34 PM
I think it is the best show ever. However, it will not be able to go longer than another season... The new Twin Peaks... I hope it doesn't end on a weak point.
I heard the network or the creators wanted to go for 8 seasons.:eek:
spotpc
03-27-2006, 03:55 PM
I heard the network or the creators wanted to go for 8 seasons.:eek:
I think they could do that. It's possible.
shadowmose
03-27-2006, 04:08 PM
How long do you think they'll drag Sun's pregnancy? I'm curious in how her pregnancy will add anything to the story besides maybe some soap opera stuff.
There's the theories that Sun cheated,miracle,or the interesting one where Sun was articfical inseminated so she could get Jin out of his job with your father.
I'm leaning toward it's a miracle because theres the precedent of Locke walking again.
spotpc
03-27-2006, 04:11 PM
How long do you think they'll drag Sun's pregnancy? I'm curious in how her pregnancy will add anything to the story besides maybe some soap opera stuff.
There's the theories that Sun cheated,miracle,or the interesting one where Sun was articfical inseminated so she could get Jin out of his job with your father.
I'm leaning toward it's a miracle because theres the precedent of Locke walking again.
Miracles are possible, but I'm taking a wait-and-see attitude. They'll offer evidence along the way as too which explanation they'll go for. I think they'll drag the pregnancy out over the rest of the seaon and maybe have the baby born early next season.
shadowmose
03-27-2006, 04:22 PM
I'm hoping the writers have at least a general outline of what their doing and not winging it season by season. I think X-files suffered because the creator wrote himself into a hole. I can't think of anything besides that the other's will suceed in taking the baby. If confirmed that Sun did cheat, then what will this mean for the rest of the castways? Sun and Jin will revert back to their old season selfs. One hand, people change and nothing stays the same. Yet, it sorta feels that the creators are treading the same path again.
nixon
03-27-2006, 04:23 PM
IF she were pregnant before they crashed, she'd be showing way before that... She was impregnated on the island. Anyone think Charlie did it while she was knocked out?
Doc
spotpc
03-27-2006, 04:26 PM
IF she were pregnant before they crashed, she'd be showing way before that... She was impregnated on the island. Anyone think Charlie did it while she was knocked out?
Doc
Charlie would never even think of such a thing. There's no way. And if that were the case, it would have taken longer for her to show.
nixon
03-27-2006, 04:30 PM
Charlie would never even think of such a thing. There's no way. And if that were the case, it would have taken longer for her to show.
How do you figure that? It only takes a week or two for women to experience what she experienced--nausea, dizzyness, etc....
And why wouldn't Charlie do that? He helped Sawyer rob the rest of the group of their weapons...
shadowmose
03-27-2006, 04:30 PM
We don't know because women might not show signs if only two months pregant. Sun may have cheated with baldie before getting on the plane like a couple of days earlier. She was going to leave Jin before deciding at the last mintue that she'll stay with Jin.
spotpc
03-27-2006, 04:31 PM
I'm hoping the writers have at least a general outline of what their doing and not winging it season by season. I think X-files suffered because the creator wrote himself into a hole. I can't think of anything besides that the other's will suceed in taking the baby. If confirmed that Sun did cheat, then what will this mean for the rest of the castways? Sun and Jin will revert back to their old season selfs. One hand, people change and nothing stays the same. Yet, it sorta feels that the creators are treading the same path again.
You're totally right. X-Files was poorly planned towards the end. But I have a feeling the Lost producers know where they're going.
nixon
03-27-2006, 04:34 PM
We don't know because women might not show signs if only two months pregant. Sun may have cheated with baldie before getting on the plane like a couple of days earlier. She was going to leave Jin before deciding at the last mintue that she'll stay with Jin.
We know from Jack's conversation with the others that they have been on the island at least three months... At least. So she would be showing a lot more than the first signs of pregnancy.
shadowmose
03-27-2006, 04:34 PM
Can someone confirms this because I heard J.J Abrams was going to leave after this season.
Alias did lose a lot steam after he left but how involved is he with the show?
spotpc
03-27-2006, 04:35 PM
I think a Lost manga might be kinda wierd.
When a woman shows signs of being pregnant vary from woman to woman and from pregnancy to pregnancy. It depends on alot of factors. Right now, I'd say the field is wide open for interpretation.
Charlie isn't a violent person by nature. He was only helping Sawyer steal the guns as a way to get back at Locke. And that's very different from rape.
shadowmose
03-27-2006, 04:36 PM
We know from Jack's conversation with the others that they have been on the island at least three months... At least. So she would be showing a lot more than the first signs of pregnancy.
I wouldn't pick Charile then but maybe perhaps Michael? Farfetched but you never know.
nixon
03-27-2006, 04:39 PM
Actually, that isn't true at all--at least to that extent. Most pregnancies (particularly in the early stages) are exactly the same. Human biology is like that. Remember, kids, I'm a doctor.
spotpc
03-27-2006, 04:40 PM
I wouldn't pick Charile then but maybe perhaps Michael? Farfetched but you never know.
They said it was only two months. And I think it's more likely that Michael is the father. Even though we never saw any indication that things were going that way.
shadowmose
03-27-2006, 04:50 PM
The first season was 48 days and but how many days in the second season might be key. Sun might have had a affair when she thought Jin was dead after finding the message in the bottle. In a moment of weakness she turns to .... Saywer.:p
spotpc
03-27-2006, 04:52 PM
The first season was 48 days and but how many days in the second season might be key. Sun might have had a affair when she thought Jin was dead after finding the message in the bottle. In a moment of weakness she turns to .... Saywer.:p
Yeah, whatever... :rolleyes:
shadowmose
03-27-2006, 05:00 PM
Sun had the affair with baldie and the look on Sun's face when Jin was a look of "I can't believe he thinks its a miracle". Usually, the simplest answer is the correct one. No one knows why the writers added that flashback so I could be wrong.
spotpc
03-27-2006, 05:02 PM
Sun had the affair with baldie and the look on Sun's face when Jin was a look of "I can't believe he thinks its a miracle". Usually, the simplest answer is the correct one. No one knows why the writers added that flashback so I could be wrong.
That look on her face did bother me. It could be that she was lying about having an affair. Or it could be that she was just marvelling at how dumb her husband is. Or possibly both.
nixon
03-27-2006, 05:03 PM
You could be wrong. Way wrong...
spotpc
03-27-2006, 05:05 PM
You could be wrong. Way wrong...
I concede that. But I may also be right. Way right.
shadowmose
03-27-2006, 05:12 PM
Why would Charlie rape Sun? A women who he has minimal contact with. I would assume Charlie would have raped Claire because in his mind it might not be rape but making love instead.
spotpc
03-27-2006, 05:15 PM
Why would Charlie rape Sun? A women who he has minimal contact with. I would assume Charlie would have raped Claire because in his mind it might not be rape but making love instead.
But he would never do that...
JimDeVico
03-27-2006, 05:20 PM
Why would Charlie rape Sun? A women who he has minimal contact with. I would assume Charlie would have raped Claire because in his mind it might not be rape but making love instead.
There is no mixing the two. Consensual sex is just that. Anything else is simply rape, no matter the motivation.
spotpc
03-27-2006, 05:22 PM
There is no mixing the two. Consentual sex is just that. Anything else is simply rape, no matter the motivation.
You'd be surprised what people can justify if they get a mind to. But like I said, he would never even think of that.
shadowmose
03-27-2006, 05:32 PM
I'm curious on why Doc Holliday thought of Charlie raping Sun.
spotpc
03-27-2006, 05:36 PM
I'm curious on why Doc Holliday thought of Charlie raping Sun.
It had actually occurred to me too but I dismissed the idea right way.
nixon
03-27-2006, 06:43 PM
Well, it was just a thought. He was responsible for nabbing her in the first place. But then she ended up unconscious. Maybe the others impregnated her? Either way, she lost some time... And Charlie seems way odd since he had that breakdown.
Doc
spotpc
03-27-2006, 06:46 PM
Well, it was just a thought. He was responsible for nabbing her in the first place. But then she ended up unconscious. Maybe the others impregnated her? Either way, she lost some time... And Charlie seems way odd since he had that breakdown.
Doc
Not that odd... And he seems to be better now. Back to his old self, I'd say.
JimDeVico
03-27-2006, 08:33 PM
IF she were pregnant before they crashed, she'd be showing way before that... She was impregnated on the island. Anyone think Charlie did it while she was knocked out?
Doc
Doc, are you saying that after Charlie knocked her out, he knocked her up?
:rolleyes:
penguinminor
03-27-2006, 08:55 PM
Doc, are you saying that after Charlie knocked her out, he knocked her up?
:rolleyes:
Bwaha! That made me laugh. :D
Hopefully some more questions will be answered with Wednesday's episode. I'm very much looking forward to it. ^^
spotpc
03-28-2006, 07:20 AM
Bwaha! That made me laugh. :D
Hopefully some more questions will be answered with Wednesday's episode. I'm very much looking forward to it. ^^
I just hope Locke gets it. LOL God, I hate that guy.
spotpc
03-28-2006, 09:00 AM
Sometimes things get distorted when a story is translated from one medium to another. I have no doubt that a Lost manga would gather a good-sized fandom behind it. But I'm not sure if I could handle the change.
nixon
03-28-2006, 10:35 AM
Doc, are you saying that after Charlie knocked her out, he knocked her up?
:rolleyes:
You said it, I didn't. But, yeah...
spotpc
03-28-2006, 10:38 AM
You said it, I didn't. But, yeah... If they ruin the character like that I'll never forgive them.
chibikodo
03-29-2006, 01:45 PM
There's a 50-50 chance that Sun had an affair, and got impregnated that way, or it may have happened on the island. Afterall, Locke can walk now, when he was confined to a wheelcheer prior to the crash.. So maybe it's the island. But there is no way to tell yet...
spotpc
03-29-2006, 02:10 PM
You're right. There's no way to tell. However.... There have been cases where massive trauma has cured paralysis. But there haven't been any cases where massive trauma has cured infertility.
I think I'll let that sink in while I make my way home from work.
C. Babb
03-29-2006, 06:32 PM
Doc Holiday, you don't know what the hell you are talking about in LOST. You seem to be LOST... Watch season one over for more hints...
spotpc
03-30-2006, 06:01 AM
Let's keep it civil guys....
I think Locke's dad is a likely suspect for being "Sawyer I". Who agrees?
C. Babb
03-30-2006, 11:06 AM
i agree!
C. Babb
03-30-2006, 11:08 AM
Spotpc.. Stay in an Otaku's place and mind your damn business... This is between me and my huckleberry!!!
nixon
03-30-2006, 11:13 AM
Take it easy Otaku-X--flamers, like you, will only be warned once. Come up with a cogent point or don't bother posting at all. You're in Doc's crosshairs now.
Doc
spotpc
03-30-2006, 11:14 AM
This should be interesting.
At least someone agrees with my theory.
C. Babb
03-30-2006, 11:16 AM
Okay mommy, I'll calm down... What far-out LOST explanation do you have for us today?
JChen
03-30-2006, 11:18 AM
i agree!
Spotpc.. Stay in an Otaku's place and mind your damn business... This is between me and my huckleberry!!!
@Otaku X - don't double post
spotpc
03-30-2006, 11:21 AM
Today is a good day. :)
nixon
03-30-2006, 11:25 AM
I ain't your mommy, Otaku-X. But I do know her...I may be your daddy.
BTW-I agree that Sawyer and Locke are linked.
New theory for the day: The mysterious force that makes all the weirdness happen on Lost is an undead, super powered nerd, buried in concrete...somewhere in the middle of the island. His power: he is a master of electromagnetism like Magneto. The human brain is quite subject to the effects electricity and magnetism.
Discuss...
lost is so cool, sawyer is the best but i think locke is my fav character. that show is really hard to get back into if u miss 1 episod so i've been looking out for it like crazy.
spotpc
03-30-2006, 11:34 AM
I ain't your mommy, Otaku-X. But I do know her...I may be your daddy.
BTW-I agree that Sawyer and Locke are linked.
New theory for the day: The mysterious force that makes all the weirdness happen on Lost is an undead, super powered nerd, buried in concrete...somewhere in the middle of the island. His power: he is a master of electromagnetism like Magneto. The human brain is quite subject to the effects electricity and magnetism.
Discuss...
Bwahahahaha!!
Another believer. :D
It's a long shot, but it could be possible. People keep mentioning "him" so maybe there is some sort of crazy mutant on the island. But magnetism is unlikely. It might cause hallucinations if focussed and directed properly but it wouldn't affect everyone the same way. It's possible that there's something on the island that's affecting the gravitational force in the area. That would explain why planes and ships are all pulled towards it. And the human brain is affected by gravitational force. In fact, the brain has been known to experience tides similar to the ocean.
nixon
03-30-2006, 12:03 PM
Did anyone else notice that Locke was inspecting Nadia's (Sayid's girlfriend) house in the flashback?
Doc
spotpc
03-30-2006, 12:10 PM
Did anyone else notice that Locke was inspecting Nadia's (Sayid's girlfriend) house in the flashback?
Doc
NO!!! How could I have missed that?! Waaaa! *faints in shock*
Seriously, I thought she looked familiar.
Also, in Sayid's last flashback, did anyone notice that the girl in the soldier's photo was Kate? Sayid met Kate's dad in Iraq.
C. Babb
03-30-2006, 12:21 PM
Has anyone realized that everyone has a short time memory. Anyone notice the symbol on the wall is a map of the island and it is also the Dharma symbol, which was on the airplane that flew over the hotel from last night. Yes, all the people on the island are interconnected. We still have no idea why Jack was in Thailand and I think Jack has the dharma symbol tattooed on his arm... Remember in season one, he has Asian-like tattoos. Did anyone listen to Libby tell Hurley that the wash machine was new... No one has inquired about the polar bear, that thing in the jungle, the airplane piece. What happened to the pilot? Sayid said it best, "It seems that everyone here seems to forget what has happened to us." Notice that their dreams play a big part in their actions... Sounds like the reset button to me?
JimDeVico
03-30-2006, 12:24 PM
All I know is, next time I fly on a plane, I'm going to interview the person next to me and figure out how we're related. :D
spotpc
03-30-2006, 12:26 PM
Maybe Jack ran away to Thailand to get away from his drunken father. LOL
But seriously, I don't think it's really the Dharma symbol in Jack's tattoo. Someone would have pointed it out by now if it was. Of course, I could be blind. I mean, I didn't realize that was Nadia in last night's episode. So what do I know?
nixon
03-30-2006, 12:27 PM
As a poker player of some reknown, I must point out that the deck was marked and Jack knew it. He's a player...;) takes one to know one.
Doc
C. Babb
03-30-2006, 12:29 PM
Let's be honest... The show is bananas... C'mon how many Black people you know that are gonna fly a hot air balloon over the Pacific. Like all great American movies the Black guy is the first to die. They killed him even before they started the show!!! Speaking of Blacks, whatever happened with Walt or Michael???
spotpc
03-30-2006, 12:33 PM
@ Doc - If the deck was marked, then how come Jack kept winning? It must not have been marked very well. Stupid Sawyer-kun, such a klutz.
@ X - Walt is probably drugged out of his mind, if not dead. And Michael... who the heck knows.
nixon
03-30-2006, 12:53 PM
Jack knew--Sawyer didn't... Jack is smart, Sawyer is cunning.
spotpc
03-30-2006, 12:56 PM
Jack knew--Sawyer didn't... Jack is smart, Sawyer is cunning. Sawyer was a grifter. That's how he made his living. If the deck was marked, wouldn't he have noticed? He seems to notice everything else.
shadowmose
03-30-2006, 01:03 PM
I found the image of the map on other forum so here it is.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a194/gumpy500/snapshot_j_2006329_.jpg
It appears to be a map of the bunkers leading to the center of the swan station. Remember when they were first going through the hatch, there was a strong magnetic force pulling stuff towards the wall in the sealed off section.
spotpc
03-30-2006, 01:14 PM
Interesting. So there are seven bunkers on the island. The survivors have only seen three of them. The big one that they live in, the storage one that the Tailies were living in, and the medical fascility that Claire was held captive in. I wonder what's in the other four.
shadowmose
03-30-2006, 01:20 PM
I have read some fan's decoding on some of the Latin off the map and they say that some of the stations became inactive after the "incident". I wonder what the incident was? Maybe something like Akira or a virus outbreak like the french women was saying.
spotpc
03-30-2006, 01:23 PM
They were obviously doing some sort of experiment on the island. Behavior modification, by the look of it. Like I said a while back, they might have been trying to induce violent behavior. Maybe some of the test subjects got loose and destroyed some of the bunkers.
shadowmose
03-30-2006, 01:36 PM
Here the map again but with a lot of it decoded.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3356/maptranscription3ui.jpg
If the Dharma corp was testing the castways for some reason, then why airdrop supplies?
The latin name of polar bears is on the map so Walt didn't just summon them out of nowhere. It seems they were breeding animals for some reason, maybe like Umbrella from Resident Evil. You might recall in the early S2 episodes with Saywer and the rest were in the raft, you could see a shark with the Dharma corp logo branded on the fin.
spotpc
03-30-2006, 01:48 PM
Here the map again but with a lot of it decoded.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3356/maptranscription3ui.jpg
If the Dharma corp was testing the castways for some reason, then why airdrop supplies?
The latin name of polar bears is on the map so Walt didn't just summon them out of nowhere. It seems they were breeding animals for some reason, maybe like Umbrella from Resident Evil. You might recall in the early S2 episodes with Saywer and the rest were in the raft, you could see a shark with the Dharma corp logo branded on the fin.
I doubt they were testing humans for anything originally. But it's obvious from the "stated goal" that it was some sort of behavioral study. Maybe they moved on to human trials later and that's when something went wrong.
shadowmose
03-30-2006, 02:00 PM
I doubt they were testing humans for anything originally. But it's obvious from the "stated goal" that it was some sort of behavioral study. Maybe they moved on to human trials later and that's when something went wrong.
It could be that the monster or Cerebus went berserk . The monster could be their security system and this could mean that the others used to be scientists or the test subjects. Its possible that they revolted against the company and made the security system go berserk.
I think Libby could also be a plant from the others like Goodwin. I surpised Jack one upped Saywer as well. I heard a theory that Saywer let Jack have the medicine but I don't know about that.
spotpc
03-30-2006, 02:12 PM
It could be that the monster or Cerebus went berserk . The monster could be their security system and this could mean that the others used to be scientists or the test subjects. Its possible that they revolted against the company and made the security system go berserk.
I think Libby could also be a plant from the others like Goodwin. I surpised Jack one upped Saywer as well. I heard a theory that Saywer let Jack have the medicine but I don't know about that. Cerberus is definitely a security system. And yes, I believe it is the smoke monster. Cerberus was the name of the three headed dog that guarded the gates of the underworld in ancient Greek mythology. But if there was a revolt against the company, then why would they still be dropping supplies? It makes no sense. Unless... That's what the button was for. If it keeps getting pushed then it sends a signal to the company saying everything is okay. That's why they dropped the supplies. They don't know that the experiment went out of control.
I don't think Libby is a plant. If she was, then why would she help Claire get her memory back? If Claire remembers everything from when she was taken then she has information that could be very dangerous to the Others. They wouldn't want that to get out.
Jack is a kick-ass poker player. He probably learned from some sleazy card shark in Thailand. I don't think Sawyer would have let Jack win. He's too proud to do that. Of course, it could be that he WAS losing on purpose but he expected Jack to go for the guns instead. Maybe he wants to get rid of the guns as a kind of make-up gesture.
EDIT: Gotta run home now. Might be back on later tonight.
shadowmose
03-30-2006, 02:26 PM
I thinking the blast doors went down because the supplies were being airdropped. Were the blast doors being shut to protect whoever was inside?
Libby could have helped Claire in order to gain her trust and find how she espcaped. Finding out who helped Claire out should be very important to others as well. Is it safe to assume that person was the french women's child?
Locke is also dumb for thinking a toolbox will hold up those blast doors. Did Helen follow Locke to his father's hotel room or was she going to see his father? I'm thinking Locke loses the use of his legs either in drunk-driving accident or the guys looking for his father.
spotpc
03-30-2006, 05:07 PM
I thinking the blast doors went down because the supplies were being airdropped. Were the blast doors being shut to protect whoever was inside?
Libby could have helped Claire in order to gain her trust and find how she espcaped. Finding out who helped Claire out should be very important to others as well. Is it safe to assume that person was the french women's child?
Locke is also dumb for thinking a toolbox will hold up those blast doors. Did Helen follow Locke to his father's hotel room or was she going to see his father? I'm thinking Locke loses the use of his legs either in drunk-driving accident or the guys looking for his father.
Why protect someone from their own supplies? An announcement over the loudspeaker should have been enough to warn them. The computer system is very old and probably full of bugs. I wouldn't be surprised if it were some sort of processing error.
Yeah, that was Alex, Danielle's daughter. You really think that Libby helped Clair just to get that little piece of info? I'll bet they already knew it was her.
Locke is just dumb. We've known that for a long time. I think Helen was following him because she suspected he was lying. And I'll bet you're right about those guys beating him up. I expected them to show up in that last flashback and shoot him.
shadowmose
04-04-2006, 01:28 PM
Locke is just dumb. We've known that for a long time. I think Helen was following him because she suspected he was lying. And I'll bet you're right about those guys beating him up. I expected them to show up in that last flashback and shoot him.
I think your right because Locke might stand up for "Henry Gale". Locke's father and girlfriend abandon him so he'll protect Henry Gale because Gale didn't leave, despite the damning evidence Sayid brought.:confused: I am curious if Locke will share on what he saw on the blast doors with everyone else. I thinking he won't just like he did when he found the hatch.
spotpc
04-04-2006, 01:54 PM
I think your right because Locke might stand up for "Henry Gale". Locke's father and girlfriend abandon him so he'll protect Henry Gale because Gale didn't leave, despite the damning evidence Sayid brought.:confused: I am curious if Locke will share on what he saw on the blast doors with everyone else. I thinking he won't just like he did when he found the hatch.
I think Locke will try to stand up for the guy. He'll be over-ruled, but he'll try. You're right of course. It's because Henry didn't leave him. In that spirit, I think Locke could negotiate a deal for him. Henry tells everything he knows about the Others in return for amnesty. In the preview, Henry seemed terrified of going back to his master. He may just take an amnesty deal if they offered it.
I think Locke will keep the map he saw to himself. He thinks about his political position too. In order to have a little power left after this incident, he'll have to know something that nobody else knows.
shadowmose
04-06-2006, 01:05 PM
This was a good episode even though it didn't move the story forward that much. I was kinda hoping Hurley would have slipped off the cliff. I doubt it but I hope the creators won't pull a St.Elsewhere and make everything in Hurley's head.:mad: I was wondering why Libby would like Hurley but then you see the reveal at the end of the episode. It make's perfect sense because only a crazy chick would fall for a fat guy.:p
spotpc
04-06-2006, 01:16 PM
This was a good episode even though it didn't move the story forward that much. I was kinda hoping Hurley would have slipped off the cliff. I doubt it but I hope the creators won't pull a St.Elsewhere and make everything in Hurley's head.:mad: I was wondering why Libby would like Hurley but then you see the reveal at the end of the episode. It make's perfect sense because only a crazy chick would fall for a fat guy.:p
That reaveal at the end was off the hook. I was like WHAAAAA!!! OMGWTF!! :eek: But I suppose it makes sense. Who could imitate a shrink better than someone who had regular contact with them for a while? But you know, I'm not sure I agree with you about the whole crazy chick/fat guy thing. He really is a nice guy and he's funny too. I can see why someone would fall for him. And if someone really does want to be with him then you know it's real love. Because who would be with him if they didn't love him? Right? And another thing... What if she was in love with him before? If she developed a crush on him in the mental hospital, then maybe she was stalking him. It hasn't been explained yet why she was on the plane. It makes sense if she was following him around. Now that's a reveal I'd love to see.
shadowmose
04-06-2006, 01:32 PM
We know Libby used to be crazy so how do you think this will manifest itself in the show? This has to be some foreshadowing of something. I'm thinking she will ethier be become very possessive of Hurley or have a freakout later in the season. Maybe the sickness the French woman talked about will make Libby freak out.
Also did you notice how Ana-Lucia was acting after getting the gun? Before she was acting submissive towards the castways but now she is willing to put Locke in his place.
spotpc
04-06-2006, 01:39 PM
We know Libby used to be crazy so how do you think this will manifest itself in the show? This has to be some foreshadowing of something. I'm thinking she will ethier be become very possessive of Hurley or have a freakout later in the season. Maybe the sickness the French woman talked about will make Libby freak out.
Also did you notice how Ana-Lucia was acting after getting the gun? Before she was acting submissive towards the castways but now she is willing to put Locke in his place.
I think it'll come up slowly. Maybe she'll have a relapse of whatever problem she had before. Especially if she was on medication that will run out. A freak out from her is not beyond possibility. And you know Hurley will be there to help her through it. That'll be the sweetest thing to watch.
Ana Lucia loves guns. It's part of her being a coward. If she has a weapon, she gets really bold and confident. But as soon as she's not armed, she's all meek again. And she was already a little nervous because of Sayid freaking out before.
shadowmose
04-06-2006, 01:49 PM
Ana Lucia loves guns. It's part of her being a coward. If she has a weapon, she gets really bold and confident. But as soon as she's not armed, she's all meek again. And she was already a little nervous because of Sayid freaking out before.
I think she was only meek because she killed Shannon and not because she was weaponless. I really wanted Sayid to unleash his fury on Gale and I wonder if Jack has told Sayid about the line that they can't cross in fear of the others. Sayid in a berserker rage againest the others would be great.:cool:
I believe that Gale got caught on purpose in order to observe and cause tension in the castways. His mindgames with Locke are what I'm basing this on.
spotpc
04-06-2006, 01:57 PM
I think she was only meek because she killed Shannon and not because she was weaponless. I really wanted Sayid to unleash his fury on Gale and I wonder if Jack has told Sayid about the line that they can't cross in fear of the others. Sayid in a berserker rage againest the others would be great.:cool:
I believe that Gale got caught on purpose in order to observe and cause tension in the castways. His mindgames with Locke are what I'm basing this on.
I'd love to see a Saiyuki parody thing where Jack sends Sayid, Sawyer, Kate, and Ana Lucia to the north side to kill all the Others. That would be awesome. Then you'd get to see all four of them in a berserker rage together.
You might be right about Ana Lucia. Maybe at first she was only timid because she was afraid of reprisals. But I think that went away after a week or so. She was still acting meek last time we saw her and she couldn't have been still afraid then. I just see a pattern, that's all.
I agree that Henry probably got caught on purpose. But I'm not sure I agree about why he's there. When Ethan got back with Claire, he told his bosses that he didn't "make the list". Maybe that's why they sent Henry. But he can't make any sort of list if he's locked up in the Hatch. I think he failed in his mission too. Sowing dissent in Locke was only a consolation prize.
shadowmose
04-06-2006, 02:07 PM
I agree that Henry probably got caught on purpose. But I'm not sure I agree about why he's there. When Ethan got back with Claire, he told his bosses that he didn't "make the list". Maybe that's why they sent Henry. But he can't make any sort of list if he's locked up in the Hatch. I think he failed in his mission too. Sowing dissent in Locke was only a consolation prize.
It's interesting that you bring the list because do you remember Eko confessing his sins to Gale? Maybe Eko wants to be regonized as a "good person". If Ana-Lucia told Eko about Goodwin's list, then hmm.
I wonder what Eko is building with Charlie? The similarlies between Eko and Locke continue with being like Locke and Boone. Eko and Locke representing some kind of dual nature. I think Eko would be faith and maybe Locke losing faith???
spotpc
04-06-2006, 02:11 PM
It's interesting that you bring the list because do you remember Eko confessing his sins to Gale? Maybe Eko wants to be regonized as a "good person". If Ana-Lucia told Eko about Goodwin's list, then hmm.
I wonder what Eko is building with Charlie? The similarlies between Eko and Locke continue with being like Locke and Boone. Eko and Locke representing some kind of dual nature. I think Eko would be faith and maybe Locke losing faith???
I think Eko does things just to assuage his own guilt over it. You remember how he didn't speak for 40 days after the incident, right? Well, maybe telling Henry what he did was like some sort of official confession for him.
I think he's building a log cabin. LOL :p I don't really know and I'd rather not take a serious guess. It could be anything. Eko does have some things in common with Locke. But for some reason, Eko doesn't annoy me nearly as much as Locke does.
shadowmose
04-06-2006, 02:17 PM
I think he's building a log cabin. LOL :p I don't really know and I'd rather not take a serious guess. It could be anything. Eko does have some things in common with Locke. But for some reason, Eko doesn't annoy me nearly as much as Locke does.
It's weird because sometimes Eko only give a one word answer or not answer at all when he first met the castaways. This annoyed the hell out of me.
I gotta go so goodbye
spotpc
04-06-2006, 02:19 PM
It's weird because sometimes Eko only give a one word answer or not answer at all when he first met the castaways. This annoyed the hell out of me.
I gotta go so goodbye OK, see ya. I gotta go too.
EDIT: I'm back. I just thought he was a monk or something. LOL
shadowmose
04-06-2006, 06:33 PM
I heard that next week's flashbacks will be on Rose and Bernard . If true I'm curious on what they'll add to the mythos of the show.
In the preview, you hear Kate telling Jack that she regreted kissing him. I assume that they will have a falling out over going into other territory or maybe something else. I don't why Jack would believe that the other's would trade Walt for Gale.
xdeathberry
04-06-2006, 08:23 PM
ooh I love LOST, but I only saw the first season.
But I know what happens after that anyway so it doesn't matter lol.
But a lot of people are saying LOST is getting boring now or something. :/
spotpc
04-07-2006, 06:01 AM
I'm curious about Rose and Bernard too. An inter-racial marraige couldn't have been easy for them back in the day. I want to see how they managed to pull it off. And I think Kate's apology might lead to her choosing Sawyer-kun for good. After all, if she was going to choose Jack-sama then why would she be apologizing?
Season two is anything but boring. There are as many twists and turns as there were in season one.
xdeathberry
04-08-2006, 10:56 AM
But I really can't believe who they stuck in a love triangle in a story where people are getting killed and stuff on an island. haha
shadowmose
04-08-2006, 01:56 PM
It likely that the flashbacks will be on Rose and Bernard because in the ep. Rose opposes Bernard in trying to send a SOS signal.:confused:
spotpc
04-08-2006, 02:59 PM
But I really can't believe who they stuck in a love triangle in a story where people are getting killed and stuff on an island. haha
That's why it's such a good show. Because things happen that you would never expect.
@Shadow - What was with that SOS anyway?
shadowmose
04-10-2006, 03:27 PM
@Shadow - What was with that SOS anyway?
I read that in my local TV guide from the newspaper. I thinking Rose believes that they are there for a reason and trying to leave would disrupt the divine plan. Maybe:confused:
Vicious
04-10-2006, 06:52 PM
Hmm! >.< I can't get enough of this show. It's just so awesome!
Ok I just recently saw the latest episode *Kisses TiVO* and I have to say... Hurley Rocks!
spotpc
04-11-2006, 03:47 PM
Devine plan!? Is she on drugs too? I swear, everybody is crazy on that island.
Hurley does rock. And guess what... He's crazy too!
shadowmose
04-13-2006, 11:45 AM
A interesting episode cause the castways seem like they don't want to get off the island. The SOS was a bad idea because the tide would have washed it away but it was better then nothing. Michael coming back brings up some interesting thoeries.
My favorite line was from Sawyer,"What are you gonna do, hit me with your Jesus stick?":D
spotpc
04-13-2006, 02:15 PM
My favorite line was: "Oh happy day, here comes Dr. Giggles."
LOL
shadowmose
04-13-2006, 04:30 PM
I'm thinking there's four possibilites with Michael coming back.
1) Michael is telling the truth that the others are only lightly armed.
2) Michael wants to rescue Walt any cost and is lying in order for the castaways to mount an assult.
3) Michael made a deal with the others in handing over in ethier all or a particular castway for a trade for Walt.
4) Michael was found by the others and maybe have gotten brainwashed into setting an ambush for the castways.
It's probably 2 but I'm hoping for 3 or 4.
stickdeathgod
04-13-2006, 04:36 PM
wtf was up with that neato looking light up map that apeared on the door in the hatch when the numbers reached zero?
shadowmose
04-13-2006, 04:48 PM
wtf was up with that neato looking light up map that apeared on the door in the hatch when the numbers reached zero?
The map might be a map of the different stations left by the Dharma Corp. The map has writings describe an "incident" with the security system and genetic experiments with polar bears among other things. I posted the descriptions on pg.15 I think.
Vicious
04-13-2006, 05:06 PM
I'm thinking there's four possibilites with Michael coming back.
1) Michael is telling the truth that the others are only lightly armed.
2) Michael wants to rescue Walt any cost and is lying in order for the castaways to mount an assult.
3) Michael made a deal with the others in handing over in ethier all or a particular castway for a trade for Walt.
4) Michael was found by the others and maybe have gotten brainwashed into setting an ambush for the castways.
It's probably 2 but I'm hoping for 3 or 4.
I've read some of the creators work in certain comic books (Young Avengers, Jeph Loeb's Batman) and I'ma go with number 3 on this one. They always love to do the cliffhangers and that is one BIG cliffhanger.
shadowmose
04-13-2006, 05:20 PM
I've read some of the creators work in certain comic books (Young Avengers, Jeph Loeb's Batman) and I'ma go with number 3 on this one. They always love to do the cliffhangers and that is one BIG cliffhanger.
You maybe right because I heard there won't be new episodes until May. That only leaves four or five episodes left in the season. The return of the Walt in the season finale could be a possiblitity
JimDeVico
04-13-2006, 05:30 PM
Did anyone happen to see "Walt" on My Name is Earl a couple of shows back?
Vicious
04-13-2006, 05:38 PM
Did anyone happen to see "Walt" on My Name is Earl a couple of shows back?
I don't really like that show but I think I know what you're talking about. You mean when Earl tries to payback his "karma" from scaring "Walt's character" from thinking he was the boogeyman?
Or was it another episode?
JimDeVico
04-13-2006, 05:55 PM
You mean when Earl tries to payback his "karma" from scaring "Walt's character" from thinking he was the boogeyman?
Or was it another episode?
Yep. That episode.
Vicious
04-13-2006, 06:00 PM
Oh. Heh, it was a funny episode. "Walt's character" made me laugh a bit.
But I'm more interested in The Office. Funny stuff there.
~~
I wonder when the second season dvd's come out. I need it >_<
spotpc
04-13-2006, 08:33 PM
I think I'll go with number 2 also. But then again, we've only seen one gun wielded by one of them so maybe he's telling the truth. It's possible that they've simply been relying on deception and hand-to-hand combat so far because that's all they can do. If they had more guns then wouldn't they have used them earlier? It's human nature to use the most powerful weapons more quickly.
shadowmose
04-14-2006, 02:24 PM
I think I'll go with number 2 also. But then again, we've only seen one gun wielded by one of them so maybe he's telling the truth. It's possible that they've simply been relying on deception and hand-to-hand combat so far because that's all they can do. If they had more guns then wouldn't they have used them earlier? It's human nature to use the most powerful weapons more quickly.
The other's might not want to reveal how strong they actually are. They also might be highly armed but ammo could be scrace. If faced in a full out attack, then they might be willing to bring out the big guns. Using guns also wouldn't be steathly as knifes or clubs when they kidnapped the castways in Ana-Lucia's group.Plus Michael doesn't know that Jack and Locke gave up some guns to Zeke when he drew the line that the castways couldn't past.
spotpc
04-14-2006, 09:40 PM
A few extra guns won't make that much of a difference if the castaways mount a full assault. It'll be like the Boshin War all over again.
(The Boshin war was a civil war that took place in Japan around the same time as the American Civil War. The forces loyal to the Emperor were armed with high quality firearms imported from overseas, while those loyal to the Shogunate were armed with traditional swords and only a few guns. Needless to say, the Emperor's faction won. One of the last battles of the Boshin War was depicted at the end of the movie Last Samurai.)
shadowmose
04-18-2006, 06:50 PM
I heard that there is 4 episodes left and the last one will be a two hour ep.
I found this link and if true contain SPOILERS for the last episode.
It's supposed be the casting call sheet.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/kardon/lost9ir.gif
spotpc
04-18-2006, 08:38 PM
I heard that the last ep will be a recap. So if that's true, then there are only three episodes left.
shadowmose
04-26-2006, 06:41 PM
I just heard a interesting theory that the Dhrama Corp is attempting to get humanitity to evolve into the next step. That next step is to move beyond our corporeal existence. They were sucessful and the monster is the original scientists's consciousness.
The scientists gain god-like powers and now plan to play god. Troubled by the violence and greed in the world, the scientists plan to impose a new collective global consciousness with Dharma at its core.They plan to use an army of ethan type of people(remember that Ethan had above avg. strength) led by psychic messiahs like Aaron and Walt.
The scientists are able to extend their influence with the minerals in island acting as an antenna and maybe that's how everyone got on the island. This sorta reminds me of Eva. This theory sounds pretty cool if true.
spotpc
04-27-2006, 06:18 AM
You're right, that's very Eva-esque. But I think Human Instrumentality might be on a slightly bigger scale than this show can support. If they try to take on something like that, it might collapse. It would be neat to see though.
shadowmose
04-27-2006, 01:19 PM
Season 2 tentative DVD release date is Sept.5
source (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=5550)
I doubt the theory is true but I liked the mix of science with mysticism. I wonder what Gale meant when he said that God isn't able to see them on the island. I hoped he meant in some kind of litereal way and not just figuratively. Why woluld the theory collapse? Is just based on the sheer size of the theory?
I'm also excited about the new Lost web game from ABC planned for the summer.
spotpc
04-28-2006, 06:33 AM
Season 2 tentative DVD release date is Sept.5
source (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=5550)
I doubt the theory is true but I liked the mix of science with mysticism. I wonder what Gale meant when he said that God isn't able to see them on the island. I hoped he meant in some kind of litereal way and not just figuratively. Why woluld the theory collapse? Is just based on the sheer size of the theory?
I'm also excited about the new Lost web game from ABC planned for the summer. I already have season 2 on my Netflix list so I'll get it as soon as they do. :D
I must have missed that part. What I think he meant was that they've been doing such evil things that god would have smited them if he could see them. Since they haven't been smited yet, god must not be able to see them.
Human Instrumentality is such a huge idea. What the show has presented to us could never explain such an enormous thing. The show would break under the weight of it.
I came up with a new theory last night as I was watching the last episodes of season 1 on DVD. Maybe it was god that made the plane crash on that island. Maybe he made it so that certain people would survive. And he chose them because each one has a quality that's necessary to accomplish the mission he's set for them. And the mission is.. SMITE THE OTHERS!!
Master Rook
04-28-2006, 08:44 AM
SMITE THE OTHERS!! lol. BOOYAH-KA-SHA!!!!! SMITE THE OTHERS!!!! TRU DAT!!!
enchantressofthenight
04-28-2006, 09:06 AM
Uwah, LOST is awesome! It's my fav show now, i <3 Sawyer & Charlie!! XD But theories? -.- i can't say yet, but i would say that this whole island is some kinda government deal and that people with problems (like Locke in wheelchair) are cured here. Or maybe it has magical properties?!
spotpc
04-28-2006, 11:20 AM
Uwah, LOST is awesome! It's my fav show now, i <3 Sawyer & Charlie!! XD But theories? -.- i can't say yet, but i would say that this whole island is some kinda government deal and that people with problems (like Locke in wheelchair) are cured here. Or maybe it has magical properties?!
Now that's an interesting idea... Maybe the island is a secret penal colony. Some powerful government sends it's most dangerous criminals there. And they're allowed to run wild. Or maybe the Dharma project was some sort of research being conducted on the prisoners. And it was so evil that god decided to SMITE THEM!! :rolleyes:
gempresario
05-01-2006, 05:43 PM
I think Eko does things just to assuage his own guilt over it. You remember how he didn't speak for 40 days after the incident, right? Well, maybe telling Henry what he did was like some sort of official confession for him.
I think he's building a log cabin. LOL :p I don't really know and I'd rather not take a serious guess. It could be anything. Eko does have some things in common with Locke. But for some reason, Eko doesn't annoy me nearly as much as Locke does.
I wonder what Eko is building with Charlie? The similarlies between Eko and Locke continue with being like Locke and Boone. Eko and Locke representing some kind of dual nature. I think Eko would be faith and maybe Locke losing faith???
I though Eko and Charlie were building a church! It would make alot of sense. And i thought when Eko wouldn't speak for 40 days was because he is catholic and had to repent for the crime he had commited.
spotpc
05-01-2006, 09:24 PM
Ah, yes. Catholics feel guilty about everything, don't they? Seriously, you're right. He's definitely spent the last month and a half atoning for killing those two guys. Not that he really needed to...
gempresario
05-02-2006, 01:43 PM
And what's the deal with his his "jesus stick"?
spotpc
05-02-2006, 04:28 PM
I thought that "jesus stick" referred to the short staff he carved and inscribed with biblical quotes. You guys remember that don't you? Someone asked him what the quotes were while he was etching them and he said: "Things I need to remember."
gempresario
05-02-2006, 04:35 PM
oh! i remember now! lol wow i need to rewatch them. I forget what happens sometimes. gah!
mangachick28
05-02-2006, 04:53 PM
Have you seen the preview for the new episode? OMG, Sawyer and Anna Lucia (sorry if i spelled her name wrong) got into a fight in the jungle, and then Sawyer had her pinned. Then they just started making out! I was screaming about the pairing when i was on the phone. :p I think they think I'm insane. :) Ah well, it was only my Mom, I'm sure she knows that by now.
gempresario
05-02-2006, 04:58 PM
seriously! When was this? I dont remember seeing the preview!
mangachick28
05-02-2006, 05:07 PM
Well, it was on last night...during Medium I think...? well it was on last night during primetime.
gempresario
05-02-2006, 05:13 PM
oh... Did they have a preview at the end of last weeks show? Cause that's the only time i see them.
shadowmose
05-02-2006, 10:06 PM
New details for Season 2 DVD release. The date has changed as well Over 8 Hours of Bonus Materials Including:
* LOST CONNECTIONS: Viewers can navigate between the crossed paths of the characters, and follow the connections to the mysterious numbers. Includes compelling motion graphics, never before seen footage from the show, insight from the creators, and plants seeds to upcoming connections in the new TV season.
* LOST: ON LOCATION: This featurette provides an in-depth look at the making of 10 individual episodes of Lost. Here is an up-close and compelling look at life on the set of TV's most exciting thriller.
* THE LOST FLASHBACKS: These original, never-before-seen flashbacks from the show provide exciting new insights into the back stories of the survivors.
* SECRETS OF THE HATCH: Get an insider's look at this mysterious location.
* LOST BLOOPERS
* DELETED SCENES
* FIRE AND WATER: ANATOMY OF AN EPISODE: Follows the creation of a 'Lost' episode from script to finish.
* AUDIO COMMENTARIES
* AND MUCH MORE
STREET DATE: October 3, 2006
Suggested retail price: $59.99 (7-disc DVD box set)
Rated: TV-14. Bonus materials not rated, and subject to change.
DVD aspect ratio: 1.78:1 enhanced for 16x9 TV screens
Sound: Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Sound, Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo Sound
Language: English audio
Source (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=5583)
spotpc
05-03-2006, 07:11 AM
There are some nice bonus features there. I'm especially looking forward to those bloopers. I've already seen some from season 1. People tripping over roots, boars that won't charge. Great stuff.
I can see Ana Lucia having a thing for Sawyer but that pairing will never come to anything. Even if she manages to wrestle a kiss out of him, he's in love with someone else. It won't work. I'm not worried in the least.
shadowmose
05-04-2006, 01:34 PM
What a great ending, who couldn't tell that Michael was going to shoot Ana? I was suprised that he shoot Libby:eek: . I was wondering if their deaths are planned from the begining or are result of their legal woes. I can belive Ana was planned but I think Libby's death was forced. The storyline of Libby being in the mental ward with Hurley is left hanging.
The castways shouldn't forgive Micheal for what he did. I think he was told to kill Ana by the others and not because he couldn't have any witnesses. Micheal is putting the castways in danger because of his selfish need to get back his son. I laughed when he said, "They took my son", how many times has he said that this season? I think I have a new drinking game when the DVDs come out.:p
The flashback with Ana and Jack's dad bring up some interesting questions. When the old man was fighting with the young woman, he mentioned that he wanted to see his daughter. I hope that Claire is not Jack's half sister.:mad: I also noticed that the Old man was callilng Ana "Sarah", Wasn't this Jacks wife's name? Hmm, I wonder if the wife cheated on Jack with his Old man. If so, what a burn on Jack.
spotpc
05-04-2006, 05:01 PM
I was sure Michael was going to kill her as soon as he said he was sorry. It was just the way he said it. And BTW, Libby isn't dead yet. I saw her in the preview. Someone on another forum pointed out that the blankets she was carrying probably shielded her from the full force of the bullets. It's possible that Jack will be able to save her, especially since he was already on his way when it happened.
While I agree that Michael is putting them in danger, I do believe he has a valid reason for doing so. After all, a parent can't help but protect his child, right? I think the Others might using Walt as a hostage in order to force Michael to do their work for them. They wanted revenge for Goodwin's death and so they wanted Ana dead. So they captured Michael and told him that they would kill Walt unless he killed her for them. That's the only explanation I could think of for the series of events.
That woman did look like Claire, didn't she? I'm not sure about the connection though. It would be interesting, but I think I'll wait and see. Does Jack even know he has a half-sister? Probably not. Will he ever find out now that the only person on the island who knew about her is dead? That's a loose end I'll look forward to tying up. And yeah, Sarah was Jack's ex-wife. But when she left him, she was going to run away with her other guy. Would Jack's dad have gone to Australia with Ana if he were the guy?
shadowmose
05-04-2006, 05:09 PM
And BTW, Libby isn't dead yet. I saw her in the preview. Someone on another forum pointed out that the blankets she was carrying probably shielded her from the full force of the bullets.
I don't think blankets can shield you from bullets at almost point blank range but on that show I won't dismiss the possibility. I also herad theories that maybe Jack's father is alive due to the healing power of the island.
Did anyone catch the commerical for the Hanso Foundation? The charge for the phone call was $3 :eek: . I'm a fan,but I ain't paying that.
spotpc
05-04-2006, 05:14 PM
I don't think blankets can shield you from bullets at almost point blank range but on that show I won't dismiss the possibility. I also herad theories that maybe Jack's father is alive due to the healing power of the island.
Did anyone catch the commerical for the Hanso Foundation? The charge for the phone call was $3 :eek: . I'm a fan,but I ain't paying that.
It wasn't exactly point blank. He was at least five meters away from her. Depending on the exact angle of entry and the thickness of the blankets, the material could have slowed the bullets down enough that they didn't cause major damage. Or at least changed the trajectory enough that they didn't hit vital organs. I had heard that theory before about Jack's dad. But I truly doubt it. After all, no one else has come back from the dead. The Hanso Foundation is ridiculous, BTW.
shadowmose
05-04-2006, 05:28 PM
The rumors are swirling if Jack's dad,Chirstian(not sure about the name) is alive, then he might be in league with the others. That Jack proved to be good by standing up and calling him on being drunk during that the surgery.Do you know the timeline of when Sarah left Jack? I don't think it was right before the crash but I could be wrong.
How about Gale trying to turn Locke into an other. It doesn't sound too far-fetched when you think about. Locke did dumb things but he doesn't feel responsible for anyone's death like the other castways. In fact, his past has shown him to be gulliable and Gale might use Locke's belief that he is special to the other's advantage. What do you think?
spotpc
05-04-2006, 05:38 PM
The rumors are swirling if Jack's dad,Chirstian(not sure about the name) is alive, then he might be in league with the others. That Jack proved to be good by standing up and calling him on being drunk during that the surgery.Do you know the timeline of when Sarah left Jack? I don't think it was right before the crash but I could be wrong.
How about Gale trying to turn Locke into an other. It doesn't sound too far-fetched when you think about. Locke did dumb things but he doesn't feel responsible for anyone's death like the other castways. In fact, his past has shown him to be gulliable and Gale might use Locke's belief that he is special to the other's advantage. What do you think?
I don't think Jack's dad is alive. And even if he was, I don't think he would go for that kind of life. The timeline isn't clear but I think there were a few years in between the divorce and the trip to Australia.
There is a definite possibility that Locke was being recruited for some purpose. Henry did say that he was supposed to bring Locke back with him. But we don't know exactly what for. For the same reason they wanted the kids and whoever else they took.
shadowmose
05-04-2006, 05:57 PM
I'm predicting that Locke will turn in the season finale. I think that the writers might kill Micheal because he can't stay in the camp after they find out the truth. I'm thinking he'll die fighting the others in order to save the castways. Libby will probably tell them what happened and wasn't Micheal in the holding cell in the preview? I don't think they'll buy Micheal story that Gale broke free,struggled with Ana to get the gun, and shoot her. Yet, Ana is on the couch with no new bruises or scratchs.
I heard that Locke and Eko go out in order to find the "?" in the map in order to heal Ana or Libby. Also, somehow Locke and Eko get in a fight and that's why we see Eko falling down that cliff in the preview.
spotpc
05-05-2006, 07:55 AM
Locke is in serious danger of turning. But that doesn't guarantee that he will. It's true that he and Jack have been struggling for power. But it's also true that Locke respects Jack. That may be enough to keep him from turning for a while longer at least. It's unlikely that he would get in a real fight with Eko. They've never fought before. There hasn't even been that much tension between them. There would have to be another shocking turn for Locke to kill Eko, even just by accident.
I think Michael will tell them the truth when they confront him about it. He was pretty horrified with himself. He might try to lie first but that won't last long. Him being killed off is a possibility. But not until next season at least.
Vicious
05-09-2006, 05:35 PM
Good thing I didn't look at this until after I saw the newest episode of Lost. I mean major spoilers.
Anyways! So it happened. Michael not only killed Michelle Rodriguez' character, he also killed Hurley's stalker/girlfriend. Duude! That sucks for Hurley! I mean I know it sucks for both characters too but Hurley finally found someone that really liked him for who he is and not for his appearance, only to get gunned down by an ex-friend. Now that's f*cked up!
What also sucks is how Michelle Rodriguez character (Argh! Forgot her name) was finally going back to make all she did back then (like kill that one guy in the back alley) and make it right again. ...and then she gets killed. Damn!
Then I saw the trailer of the next episode. The preview shows Mr. Ecko falling down from a tree / cliff. Does he live after that fall? Does somebody catch him? Who knows.
Lost is just so awesome.
shadowmose
05-09-2006, 05:45 PM
Anyways! So it happened. Michael not only killed Michelle Rodriguez' character, he also killed Hurley's stalker/girlfriend. Duude! That sucks for Hurley!
What also sucks is how Michelle Rodriguez character (Argh! Forgot her name) was finally going back to make all she did back then (like kill that one guy in the back alley) and make it right again. ...and then she gets killed. Damn!
Then I saw the trailer of the next episode. The preview shows Mr. Ecko falling down from a tree / cliff. Does he live after that fall? Does somebody catch him? Who knows.
Libby surives because she was carrying blankets. :rolleyes: Michelle Rodriguez's Anna finally became likeable and bam she's dead. Anna's mother could be searching for her which could raise some interesting questions.
MAJOR SPOILERS FOR UPCOMING EPISODES
Episode 2.21: ? (Eko-centric)
Airdate: May 10, 2006
* 05/03 - Lindelof & Cuse: the question-mark episode is about finding out what that question mark on that map means. That episode is a great opportunity for us to finally put Locke and Mr. Eko together, sort of a philosophical battle of faith and will that we've been hinting at all season long. [It started] back when Eko gave Locke that film that he brought across in that hollowed-out Bible, [and] this is sort of the next step in their relationship. Just as a side note, the "?" episode was originally going to be the episode that Darren Aronofsky would direct prior to Rachel Weisz's pregnancy. We thought it would be a cool shout-out to him since he made the movie Pi, which was just the symbol for pi. It ended up being directed by a guy named Deran Sarafian. It was hard to find another Darren to direct the episode, but we managed. Source: Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide
* 04/24 - Mr. Eko enlists Locke to help find a secret location he believes houses answers to the island's mysteries. Meanwhile, Jack and the other survivors struggle to cope with the horrific situation in the hatch.
Episode 2.22: Three Minutes (Michael-centric)
Airdate: May 17, 2006
* 05/01 - Guest starring are Malcolm David Kelley as Walt, M.C. Gainey as Mr. Friendly, Tania Raymonde as Alex, April Grace as Ms. Klugh and Michael Bowen as Pickett. Source: ABC
* 04/25 - A determined Michael convinces Jack and several castaways to help him rescue Walt from "The Others." Meanwhile, Charlie struggles with Eko's decision to discontinue building the church. Source: ABC
* 04/12 - Michael will be getting a flashback episode on May 17, during which we'll learn what, um, Others stuff he's been up to these last couple of months. Whatever it is he's been doing, I understand we'll meet a very different Michael than the one we left. Walt will also be back, and yes, he'll still be played by Malcolm David Kelley. I'm also hearing that [the] episode contains a great scene between Jack and Sawyer. Even better than the poker stuff. Source: Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide
* 03/30 - Guest star is 'Mrs Klugh', a smart, interesting, edgy, powerful businesswoman in her early 40's. Source: SecretAgentMan at TWoP
spotpc
05-09-2006, 09:32 PM
Of course Libby is alive. They wouldn't kill her off now.
Meroko Chan
05-10-2006, 10:51 AM
NOOO!
ANA!
Ana is my favorite LOS