Capre Diem

[sandytaty]

Carpe Diem means "seize the day."

Yesterday night I was reading this poems from the 16th century, and I was looking at today society. That it is completely the opposite and really really sad in this 21 century.

I want to hear your opinion of, How you view or the definition of Caper Diem? ANd how can you compare it to the 16 century and today?

I believe that is romantic to seize the day and live for the moment, but at the same time is sad, because everything has consequences. ALso pretty sad in today time, most girls prefer a bottle of beer or drugs, instead of roses or a romatic melody.

[Aratos]

Carpe. Not caper.

Personally, I see it as a call to go out and do your best, don't leave things off tommorow that you could today. Protestant work ethic as it where.

[sandytaty]

Aurgh...You are right, big mistake there O_O

[TheBohemian]

I don't really see what's so different.
Technology's advanced, so people are more aware of what's happening outside their own little bubbles, but people don't behave all that differently from how they did back in the day.

[sleepyhead]

i just watched the Dead Poet Society, and i guess it's important to stand up. and now in days more people are doing this. And we could have a LONG discussion or Arguement about how less people are 'sezing the day' but i guess since we don't have more planned lifes and we aren't confined in our lives like back then when a woman's job would to stay in the house and marry a rich husband. or a man's job to work in medical or busisness. to get rich so i guess we could have a long discussion. But u Should watch the dead poets society it's a pretty good movie.

[Eskel]

Oh god. When I saw Carpe Diem, I started getting Dead Poets Society flashbacks...*shudders* I wouldn't mind DPS so badly if it weren't for the fact I had to write an essay on it and my school has this unspoken tradition where people try to make as many DPS references as possible..*shudders again*

Dead Poets Society was...odd. I think someone said that if the movie ended with only Charlie - was that his name? - standing on the desk, and no one else moving to support him by standing on his, then the movie would have had a greater effect (effect? affect? my poor english skills are none existant) and would have made the audience THINK.

Anyone have any views on this?

[Aratos]

Dead Poets Society was...odd. I think someone said that if the movie ended with only Charlie - was that his name? - standing on the desk, and no one else moving to support him by standing on his, then the movie would have had a greater effect (effect? affect? my poor english skills are none existant) and would have made the audience THINK.

Anyone have any views on this?

Yes, it would have had a different effect. A completely different effect in fact, and not neccesarily one that would have been as good imho. It would've really changed the entire film.

[Eskel]

It would have made people THINK, rather than with people walking away with the same feeling they get from any other movie, "well, that was a good way to waste two hours - now what?"

[Aratos]

I disagree. The film made me think, possibly more so than it would have in your suggested ending. It's a personal favourite of mine, actually

[WhistleBlower]

If you are constantly "Seizing the day" then what is there left to hope for?

I say it's best to live in your moment and always hope for a better tomorrow.

[Eskel]

I disagree. The film made me think, possibly more so than it would have in your suggested ending. It's a personal favourite of mine, actually

All it made me think was, 'How on earth am I supposed to write an essay on this?!?!"

[CrazyCat]

Dead Poet's Society was a good movie. But did anyone else think of Newsies? "Open the door and seize the day" I saw that movie before I knew what carpe diem meant so I always think of Newsies when I think of seizing the day.

[Aratos]

I say it's best to live in your moment and always hope for a better tomorrow.

That's kinda what carpe diem means...

[shadowmose]

I believe that is romantic to seize the day and live for the moment, but at the same time is sad, because everything has consequences. ALso pretty sad in today time, most girls prefer a bottle of beer or drugs, instead of roses or a romatic melody.

The past was way more violent then the present and fewer civil liberties if you weren't in the elite class. So I don't think the past was really all that great compared to today.

[sandytaty]

The past was way more violent then the present and fewer civil liberties if you weren't in the elite class. So I don't think the past was really all that great compared to today.

I know...but each day the society is becoming worses. Im even wondering if chicks are not going to wear mini skirts or show their back tomorrow, but a thread to cover their private parts. But still the higher number of killing people is in this century then in the past or during the WW2.

Plus before it was more romantic and gentle. Most girls prefer a bottle of beer then a rose.

[TheBohemian]

I know...but each day the society is becoming worses. Im even wondering if chicks are not going to wear mini skirts or show their back tomorrow, but a thread to cover their private parts. But still the higher number of killing people is in this century then in the past or during the WW2.

Plus before it was more romantic and gentle. Most girls prefer a bottle of beer then a rose.

Only if you spend all your time in a crackhouse. Or a frat dorm. :rolleyes:

[shadowmose]

Plus before it was more romantic and gentle. Most girls prefer a bottle of beer then a rose.

So your basing your ideas on LA chicks you know, the sample size doesn't support your generalizations.

[sandytaty]

So your basing your ideas on LA chicks you know, the sample size doesn't support your generalizations.

It not that...I did not said all girls. I said most of them. Is a fact, some girls will prefer a beer then roses. Even tho I'm a female I have to admit it things have turn upside down.

[sandytaty]

Only if you spend all your time in a crackhouse. Or a frat dorm. :rolleyes:
what you mean?

[TheBohemian]

I'm saying you're way off the mark if you think girls would rather get drunk than get flowers or something similar from a guy she likes. A lot of em wouldn't complain if they got both, but that's a different arguement entirely...

And please refrain from double-posting? Pretty please? =/

[Tajtan]

I'm a girl and I can safely say I don't know any girl that would prefer a beer over a rose.

[TheMischievousFox]

Really I think it depends on the girl. Maybe the better point is that times have changed so much that romanticism has taken a very different turn and relationships much more casual then formal. For example where as in the past it was the norm for women to get flowers and be very happy with them, some girls now a days would prefer something far less traditionally romantic, like a beer. :D

[TheBohemian]

Why does it sound like Mischievous Fox is stating her personal preference...? :p

And on a side note, I'm realising I can't in good conscience use initials for your name. Calling someone The MF all the time like that unprovoked just seems a little much. ;)

[Tajtan]

Tip: Guys offering to buy a girl a beer in a club aren't necessarily doing it to be romantic.

And Bo, try using TMF. ;) You know how long it was until I realized when people said that they meant TheMischievousFox? :confused: I suck.

[TheBohemian]

TMF really isn't much of an improvement for me, sorry. :biglaugh:
And girls who accept the guy's offer of a drink aren't necessarily looking for a night of romance, either.
But again, how is that different from a couple hundred years ago?

[CrazyCat]

It's not that different really than from the past, just women have more say now and divorce is acceptable. But it is true that relationships and marriage don't seem to hold as much meaning as it used to since everyone seems to be divorced.

How did this relate to carpe diem again?

[TheBohemian]

I don't think it does, really, but it's a tangent from the first post, so it's fair game. ;)
In general, I don't agree with divorce; when you say 'I do' your committed to a relationship, to making it work. Yes, it actually requires effort. Get over it, people. And divorce, especially how it's generally used, cheapens all that.
That said, I don't mind at all that it's not just men who can choose to cut the relationship off with some minor quibble that they're displeased with.

[Tajtan]

In general, I don't agree with divorce; when you say 'I do' your committed to a relationship, to making it work. Yes, it actually requires effort. Get over it, people. And divorce, especially how it's generally used, cheapens all that.:) I agree. I don't believe that people take marriage seriously and divorce rates are insanely ridiculous.

[Aratos]

In general, I don't agree with marriage in the first place. And I definately don't agree with divorce: if you're stupid enough to let yourself get into such a situation then let not man seperate what God has brought together I say!

[Tajtan]

How can you not "agree" with marriage? :confused:

[Aratos]

I'm in favour of volountary human extinction.

[TheBohemian]

Sure you say this now, before you eventually have a crazy night of drunken copulation. :p

[Aratos]

Yeah, well, if cruel karma dictates such a fate for me, who am I to argue?

[Tajtan]

cruel karma and who are you to argue? Sounds like someone is hopeful. :rolleyes:

[101basic]

I'm a girl and I can safely say I don't know any girl that would prefer a beer over a rose.


srry I have to disspoint(srry Bad writing) you on this one, I know alot of girls who rather drink then get a rose,

[Tajtan]

srry I have to disspoint(srry Bad writing) you on this one, I know alot of girls who rather drink then get a rose,Wow. That's too bad.

[SweetNymph]

I certainly wouldn't rather get a beer than a rose. Can't stand beer. Nasty stuff.

Chocolate, on the other hand... hand me a 5oz Hershey's and negotiations may begin.

[YamPuff]

I would rather have a stack of yaoi and some kittybois. :3

Ok, ok, I like flowers, but I like cute knick nacks and small boxes better. If you've ever seen a pic of my desk you'll know.
And on a side note, I'm realising I can't in good conscience use initials for your name. Calling someone The MF all the time like that unprovoked just seems a little much. ;)
I never noticed that...we need to give her a new nickname. >_>